#40 - Zach Crone

Tim 0:23

My friend Jeremy came over last night and we were talking about this song. And I told him, I said, the song's probably seen or been heard more now than it ever has ever been heard.

Zach 0:34

I love it. Yeah.

Tim 0:35

It's like the perfect interest.

Zach 0:36

It is, man. It like really gets you going. I told you when I listened to this when I cut the grass. And so like when I first kick it on, I'm like turning the mower on and I get the guitar, I'm like, all right, let's get after it. Let's go. That's awesome. Yeah.

Tim 0:47

Well, thanks for listening. But I think that I told you a second ago, I thought it's hilarious that anybody's even listening to it. But um for our for ever for the audience here is my friend Zach Crohn, who I've not seen. And how long has it been?

Zach 1:01

It's I was thinking about this today. It has been like five years. Has it really been five years? It feels like yesterday, but it's been about five years.

Tim 1:08

I was gonna I was about to say three, but then in my mind, I was like, dude, dude, dude, let him answer it because you're gonna be wrong.

Zach 1:15

Man, and I saw um I saw Mike and Joseph maybe about a year ago. We came down, they came down and got some lunch with me one day. But um, yeah, I haven't seen anybody else. And I ran into Mike in like the most random things. Mike's everywhere, man. Multiple times. I ran into him at which his kids go to state, but um, I ran into him at the Vanderbilt Mississippi State basketball game last season. Walking back to my truck in the parking garage, and he is literally parked right next to me.

Tim 1:46

Are you talking about Riley or Lord?

Zach 1:47

Mike Riley, yeah. Mike Riley, right next to me. I'm like, what the heck? And then at the uh Boulevard Bolt last Thanksgiving, yeah, Caleb and I are standing there and I see big tall guy, Mike.

Tim 1:59

It's like I I'm really mad at Mike right now because he was supposed to be with us today and he and he um decided he was too important to do it. But Mike is a good friend and he is everywhere. It's unbelievable. It's crazy. It's like that man works more hours in a day than uh than anybody I've ever met. Well connected. Yeah, he's well connected. Yeah, and I actually I can't talk about the amount of hours that he works because I started posting that stuff on TikTok and I got pretty hammered on the salary conversation.

Zach 2:29

Yeah.

Tim 2:30

And then I thought about it and I was like, that's okay. At least people, at least people are commenting.

Zach 2:35

That's the thing, man. Like engagement, good or bad, engagement is is is great.

Tim 2:40

Yeah, if you you said you've listened to this show before and it's like a constant battle of like, you know, you you want to put your stuff out there, and I'm I'm a very pretty private person, yeah. But like I but you're just curious. I wonder if people like this. Yeah, and so some of the videos that I post, I'm like, man, this is like the best video ever. This is this will get them. And it's like five people look at it. That's right. And then like this one that I posted yesterday was literally just like, oh shit, I hadn't posted anything in a few days or a week. I was like, uh, what do I got? And I just ah, this will be fine. And it's like going and going.

Zach 3:15

I will say the thing I really admire though is is one of the shows I was listening to. You talked about like why you do it, and it's not to blow up, make a bunch of money, whatever.

Tim 3:25

It's just you know, to to put words on there for people to listen to, and you like doing it, and that's all so that it that is true, and uh, another big uh reason is for the kids, you know. So because when my kids were growing up with me, it's like I was always kind of like the stoic father, like, you know, you don't really know much about them, kind of mysterious, kind of you know hidden, and I don't want my kids to not know me. And I guess I've been having like this, I I guess this is my midlife crisis of like, I think I'm gonna die soon, which I don't know for sure. Right. But you every now and then you get this feeling of like, man, I might die. And then I would feel bad that like my kids didn't really know me. So, and if I think back to some of the episodes, I'm like, I don't know if I want my kids to know that part of me because I'm awful in a lot of it, but it is what it is.

Zach 4:15

Some people buy red Corvettes with chrome wheels, yeah. Some people start a podcast, start a podcast, you know.

Tim 4:22

But it it is fun to do it, it's fun to sit here and have people come over and and just chat it up. And um, it's been a lot of fun doing it. And there's been a lot of funny episodes and a lot of you know, some serious ones that I've done. But yeah, it's just uh I think I lost the uh the drive to, you know, when I was in that band when I was younger, I was like, I'm we're we're gonna make it. I mean, we're there's no other option here. I mean, we're just amazing, right? And it's like we're gonna be huge and famous, and then like nothing happens. Yep. Like so many bands, and there's tons of bands that are worthy of like being big and famous and world-known, but it's like I lost that back then. So, like doing this, it's like I have no expectation at all, and it cracks me up anytime I look at it and I'm like, wow, 10,000 people watch that and they cared enough about me making some offhand comment about salary versus hourly that they all want to fight about it, or spaghetti, or spaghetti. That was the best one. What did that guy say? He said, Well, what do these guys do for a living? Are they uh meatball testers for spaghettios? I was like, that is fantastic. Yes, you are implying that I'm fat, or you could have been talking about Joseph or both of us, in any case, he was right.

Zach 5:42

Well, and in and I said in the text today, it's like maybe you know, going at that in kind of like a backhanded way, but also like what a what a cool job. Yeah, that could be if like that's a thing, like spaghettios hit us up.

Tim 5:54

I mean, this could be a controversial TikTok clip that you know spaghettio meatballs are probably not real meat. There might there might be like a scrap of meat in there, like one percent or less. But it's like I like the consistency when I bite into that because I think to myself, and this is what I said to you well, what if I'm 80 years old and I've lost my Tifas and I bite into one of those? It's like eh, it's kind of like meat.

Zach 6:21

It's not bad. Yeah, it's fun. It reminds me of the the remember that old commercial uh with the spaghettios can where the people are like in the grocery store and it's like it's either spaghettios or chef where do you want it to, but it like rolls down the street and follows them home. Yeah, no, I don't know why when Joseph said spaghettios, that's just like what popped in my head. That's hilarious.

Tim 6:43

Yeah, so it's fun, it's funny, and yeah, we it's um it's been uh it's always it's usually more. We were talking, me and Nikki were talking to somebody last night that we know, and she was like, Well, it gets kind of foul. And so, you know, just letting you know, and then I started thinking about I'm like, well, it doesn't, it gets pretty foul when Joseph is here. You know, he's the one, he's the one that usually drives the foulness, yeah, which is fine, you know.

Zach 7:10

Yeah, I well, I told Kaylin I was coming on and she was excited, so she had me pull it up last night on YouTube, and she was like, What are they talking about? I was like, literally, it's just like friends sitting around talking about whatever, and and that's what I love. And she's like, Well, don't get just don't get canceled.

Tim 7:24

Don't get canceled. I have invited people on here before, like, not anybody famous or anything to where, like, you know, they kind of ghost me. It's probably because like they listen to some of the episodes, and I don't know if I want to be connected to that, which I completely understand. I get it, because I don't really care anymore at this point in my life. But it is very brave of you being a young man early on in his career and marriage to come on the Fairview Social Podcast.

Zach 7:49

I love it, man. Uh, it reminds me of, I don't know if you ever knew this, but when I was in college, I tried to do a dip my toes in the water of YouTube. Oh, yeah, yeah. You and you got a bunch, that's right. Made some made some videos reviewing uh cars and boats, whatever, you know, things that I'm interested in. I kind of the same for you, like I just did it because I liked video editing and yeah, like that kind of stuff. And so I was like, oh, let's try this. And um had the time to do it, you know, in school. So I had a couple of videos that that did well, but I never made any money or anything off of it. Like that.

Tim 8:21

Yeah, but you had uh how many I remember you telling us this a while back. How many views did some of them have?

Zach 8:28

A couple of them are over a hundred thousand, which like to me feels like insane. There's people that have, I mean, obviously millions of views and stuff, but yeah, but a hundred thousand views, you're just like well, and a hundred thousand over since I posted it almost you know 10 years. So it's just like keep I get people now, I'll still get comments because it's all comes to my phone. Yeah, and it's like a video I made uh seven years ago, and somebody will comment and be like, You gotta, it was about a one of them was um, I had this the boat that we have now. Um had some engine issues and ended up being a a defect from the factory that they messed up and something happened. And long story short, I posted a video about it and just kind of saying what was going on, and I still get people now that are like you you shouldn't accept what they what they were gonna do, and and you should demand and get a lawyer and this. And I'm like, Oh my god, this is seven years ago.

Tim 9:15

Everybody's oh yeah, it's like it just happened yesterday. They're trying to help you out. Yeah, I'm like, I you know, yeah, it's all it's all it's all over now. But yeah, it's funny how that works. I I never understand it because I'm not like a a commenter on things, and I was telling somebody today, like, I can't believe that people will go on there and comment about all of these things and their opinion and this and that. And then I thought about it, I was like, Well, I'm the jackass that posted it, and that was my opinion. It's like so I'm just as bad as the rest of them.

Zach 9:46

I'm the same. I I literally don't I watch so much YouTube and I don't comment anything, I just watch, just consume.

Tim 9:51

It's that like that video that I've mentioned on here before of Joseph talk or like me, Joseph, and Daniel and Mike talking about natural light beer. And it's like it I wasn't saying like, hey everybody, what kind of beer do you like? Yeah, it was just us talking about natural light in like a minute section of the whole podcast. Yeah, and then when I posted that, it's like everybody, even now, I get things like in the middle of the night, it's like Miller Light all the way, or like, you know, they'll be posting. Not American if you don't like. I know it's like I drink man beer. It's like but that's a light beer, exactly. That there's people saying that, and there's people for it and against it. It's just all over the place. But what surprises me in the whole thing is like I would never be, I wouldn't if it's me and I'm reading that and you're seeing a natural, what a corona light. Right, right. You know, it's don't get mad, and I'll get mad about stuff like that.

Zach 10:47

I get worked up.

Tim 10:48

People get mad about it, but but that's the world that we live in in social media, and it's fun, and you see it, and it's like, wow, what a what an opinion. I know, and then you get a comment like uh uh meatball uh spaghetti o meatball tester comment, and you're just like, this person is a genius, whoever that was, to be fair the Miller light all the way, yeah. I agree, of course, banquets. Well, so the way that we know each other is we used to work together um at the at the old LSI, and I remember when you started there, like you were gonna be like the great savior of like you came in. Well, you came in, you were young, fresh out of college, you had a you know, like the the a good look to you, like a handsome young man that's like ready to work. Yeah, that's that's really you're just a little bit older now, right? Yeah, but you're still a handsome young man compared to me. But anyway, that was like the the vision of you, and you came in and you did an excellent job, by the way. And um, we're like, Yeah, man, Zach's going somewhere here. We got us a keeper. How long did you end up working there?

Zach 11:55

A little over a year.

Tim 11:56

It was over a year, and then you're just like, hey, I'm putting in my notebook.

Zach 12:00

Man, and do you remember I was so I was so upset when I came into your office, man? I and then the thing was is like I thought about this a little bit, and and I'd probably be the same way now, honestly, but like I just care about stuff a lot, and I care about people a lot, and I feel like I hate letting people down. And so in that moment, I was like, damn, I I I feel like I'm kind of like gonna let Tim down here.

Tim 12:23

Yeah.

Zach 12:23

But at the same time, like, you know, something something that I felt like I had to do with with you know what I went to school for and then pursuing my stuff. And uh but man, I I loved it so it was it was an awesome, an awesome year. Like and I the fact that the fact that you know I still keep up every now and then with with Joseph and Mike and you and everybody, and it feels like yesterday it says a lot about you know how things were.

Tim 12:46

The thing is, is I I I'm the I'm the same as you. I'm pretty like sensitive to that thing, and like friendships mean something, and and the camaraderie that you have in a job like means something. And I know that you were there for a short time, but we all got we all became pretty good friends and we were all pretty close. And and then you're faced with, especially when you're young, you're faced with a situation of like, man, I gotta, I went to school for this thing, yeah. But uh like being here with the people, you know, the jobs always like you can take it or leave it. That I think that's what it's it's like that with any job that you have. Um, but you made the right decision. You should have definitely chased after that. And yeah, maybe one day we can hire you back.

Zach 13:25

Maybe so. And I did, yeah, I I mean, so I I did. I ended up getting license and now have uh a couple states that I can like I can do work in, which is cool. And you know, I still just when I when I stamp a set of plans and I see my name with a little seal, and I'm like, you know what?

Tim 13:41

Like that's that's cool. That's pretty well. I remember you specifically saying that that you wanted to like stamp that thing and have your name, and it's something to be proud of because it's like kind of like stamped into history, like I made this thing. Yeah. Have you ever seen anything that people are using? Like, have you seen a finished product? Yeah, well, for for starters, let everybody know what you do.

Zach 14:00

Yeah, so I'm a landscape architect, um, working a that landscape architecture firm slash civil engineering firm. So yeah, CAD design, project management, that kind of thing. So yeah, really exciting stuff.

Tim 14:13

So whenever you whenever you do all those things, so you do get to see like a product that's like a finished product of your plan.

Zach 14:21

Yeah, yeah, we've got a couple. Um, you know, ones ones that I kind of came in on the tail end of when I first started, started there, and um a couple that are now full circle. Um yeah, it's it's really weird too, because I was seeing about this in the way over here, and I was like, yeah, if we talk about work, like what can I? It's so weird because it's not confidential, but like I'm not the owner, so like I never know if I'm allowed to do that.

Tim 14:44

No, don't don't say anything you feel might get you in trouble. No, no, yeah. Just like just the broad, like kind of stuff that you're doing. I mean, I would I here's one thing that I was thinking about is um you remember when you did that plan when you were working with us, like for wasn't it like a holiday in or a marriage or something? Yeah, it's like you blew everybody's mind. It Zach made like a it's a Marriott, that's what it was. He had this whole big 3D plan of it. It's like like the sun was rising and and setting, and it's like everybody's like, Oh, I remember everybody's in the conference room, like, this is unbelievable.

Zach 15:17

Look at this, and you're just like, whatever's what we do. And it and the and the cool thing is I still get to do a lot of that now. Uh and and more so. Um, you know, we're all over the board, we do industrial work, uh hotels and and mixed use properties and uh stream restoration, um trail, you know, all over the board. So it's it's cool from the variety standpoint.

Tim 15:41

Do you get bored with what particular one particular thing?

Zach 15:44

No, I I would say it's you know, it's funny when I when I worked with you guys and we were out about all the time on job sites, and I thought, man, it you know, it might be kind of nice to be in an office and like and I can be and do design work and whatever. And now that I do that, I'm like, oh man, it might be kind of nice if I was like out and about like doing stuff, but it is cool. I mean, we it I get to work, we don't we don't have a we don't have landscape architects in every office that our company has. So it's cool that I can work with people in other states and do projects in other states and um get to yeah, see them whenever they're done. And a lot of them don't ever get built, and and that's fine too.

Tim 16:19

So yeah, you know, oh that's cool. Yeah, I remember the days like working out in the field all the time, and I I thought the same thing. Man, I can't, I wish I had a job that was inside. Yeah, and now I do have a job that's inside, and I'm happier with that. But well, it's nice in the winter time when we're doing snow removal and stuff, yeah. It is nice with that, but but I do I am still able to get out every now and then and yeah, and uh you know, go around in different branches and do all that stuff, but but yeah, so that's cool. Um I guess this episode here, I'm kind of going with the theme of last time because we're in October, it's starting to get a little chilly. It is, feels fantastic, it's spooky, things are getting a little spooky. Yeah, and um, I was I was gonna add, I was thinking about it. I always drop down a couple things because I can't remember anything. I'm sure you know, but if you've been listening, but um actually before we get to that, I I wrote this down because I was gonna ask you about the design, but how is AI affecting all of that? Because you do know that a lot of times you can just like put in what you want and it'll give you like a legitimate thing, like into chat GPT. For sure. Has any of that been affecting what you're doing?

Zach 17:30

I honestly uh to me, I use it more as a as a as a tool to kind of back check myself and and get more information on things. I don't ever I don't ever use it from the standpoint of you know, I type in what I want and then just whatever it gives me. I'm like, okay, yeah, I'll I'll go with that. Because I've been in I've been in several discussions um to keep licensure, we have to do these these classes to get uh professional development hours that we put towards our license. So I've been in a couple about um AI. I went to a conference where one of the keynote speakers was actually a CEO of an AI company, and even he said, like, we're a long way from yeah, just doing it. Yeah. And the hallucinations and all of that, you know, it's very real. And if you know enough about what it is that you're doing, you know that when it gives you an answer, it's like yeah, maybe not 100% correct. But I will say uh to for me, it's a tool. The hardest thing about AI when it comes to graphics, uh is getting the same graphic again. Yes, right, exactly. So you you put something in uh nano banana, whatever, you put it in, and then you're like, okay, now add this to it.

Tim 18:38

And then it's completely yeah, it gives you some with which is this sign right here.

Zach 18:42

Okay.

Tim 18:42

It's like I I went through like, okay, do this. Okay, now add this to it, and then it does it. And it gave me like the face is different or the beard's different. I'm just like, no, I need it exactly like it was.

Zach 18:55

You have to be very specific about what you write to keep everything. Yeah. And so from a graphic standpoint, one, I like doing it, but two, I that because of that, I'm like, I'd rather just pump out what I know I want to do versus trying to type into something. But I think from a you know, a quick you know, perspective of something. Hey, I've got this house and I want it to look like this, and I've got uh this plant material on the front, and I'm not sure, you know, grade elevation, what that's gonna look like. Pump me something out just so I can get a quick idea. I think it's great for that kind of stuff. But final deliverable stuff, I I don't use it yet.

Tim 19:34

It's it's it is a way uh ways off to actually take a job like that and do it. I I've I've used it a little bit because I'm testing it with some um, you know, we use a company that um measures out a lot of the stuff for some of our construction jobs. And I'm like, okay, well, we pay a lot of money for them to do that. Let's see how far I could get with like a chat GPT type situation. And it gets you in the ballpark on things, but it's still not like perfect enough to do it. Right. But what's really nice about it, and you know this, like the landscape industry, you're kind of like brother, sister to the landscape industry and what you what with what you're doing. Um, it's like we are so far behind in like technology and stuff like that. And it's it's kind of cool to see it starting to pick up using a lot more of different programs and things like that to help our everyday life. And then even uh Riley's starting to use like Chat GPT for certain things. I mean, something as simple as like if you take a picture of somebody's house and it's got a bunch of weeds or something in it, it's like, hey, show me this house without all the weeds in it. And so like it can be a very quick thing, it's like, hey, this is uh something that we can do for you, you know.

Zach 20:45

And I use it a lot for uh when I have a project another state, like just backtracking myself on like if I'm picking out a certain plant, is this is this a great thing here? Is it tolerant of these conditions? Yeah, is it for this area? Yeah, I'll try to get some pricing for for our owner that's you know, so they can figure out how much a project's gonna cost, um, availability of plant material within a certain radius of a project because I'm not gonna ship something from super far away. There's some limitations to that, but it it helps.

Tim 21:12

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Is it's at a point right now where it's just it's a tool as opposed to it's not taking anything. Yeah, and a lot of people worry about that. You know, Daniel, he he's been worried about like AI taking over measuring. You still gotta have somebody with a human touch because yeah, you gotta you gotta check it because a lot of the stuff it's doing is it's doing it through Google Maps or Google Earth or whatever, and it's like it might not know that there's this incline here or there's this hill or this elevation or and stuff like that. So it's um it's just not ready for prime time as far as taking people's jobs.

Zach 21:46

Yeah, and this CEO that I I listened to speak, he he thought we were decades, and and he's a CEO of an AI company, and he's saying I I think we're decades away from something like that. Yeah, but who you know, things move fast.

Tim 21:57

I mean, it's hard to tell, man. It's like the this whole technology boom um just in the past couple years with AI, and it's and it's gotten a lot better and it continues to get a lot better. Uh, it's very interesting to to watch it all, but it's still not perfect.

Zach 22:12

Oh, yeah.

Tim 22:13

It's it's perfect in so many ways, but it's not perfect to have that human touch to it. 100%. It's like, you know, even if you're listening to AI songs and AI movies, it still doesn't have like that.

Zach 22:25

It has no character, it has no feeling.

Tim 22:28

It's like it's like almost warmth. Yeah, it's no yeah, warmth. It's like dead inside. Yeah, and you can tell and humans can pick that up immediately. 100%. And computers can't um mimic that or replicate that at this point. 100%. But maybe in the future. Maybe so. Yeah, anyway, about the spooky stuff. I was gonna ask you. Well, number one, I was I when when we were texting earlier, said, okay, well, I can't talk about salary stuff because that makes people mad, which I I'm just kidding. Uh, we can talk about it if we want, and the 12-foot-tall skeleton, which I've really pissed people off because met people were mad saying that like I don't have any fun or anything like that. And I'm all for fun. And I even made I'm I made the comment that like it just lost its magic because you see it every day.

Zach 23:15

Right.

Tim 23:15

And so then you texted me and said that you have a situation like that. So somebody's had one up for like a long time.

Zach 23:20

Well, and the thing is it's not a skeleton. Oh, it's a well, we do have a couple of skeletons in the neighborhood, but this one um is a spider, it's a massive spider made out of like the black, you know, corrugated uh plastic pipe. So it's kind of janky. It is, and then there's like a there's like a like a body that they like spray painted, you know, black, and then it has like a head. And it it was out in the yard for I mean, well beyond Halloween. We're talking a year to the point where like when when Christmas rolled around, it had a Santa hat, and then New Year's rolled around and it had it had um party glasses, and then the Easter, it's just every holiday, just kind of stayed up. In the first year we lived, you know, there I was like, okay, this is funny, like I'll get with it. But I, you know, it's kind of also like I don't want to see this every day, you know. Yeah, but then it was like the times in between a holiday where it's just like in August and it's just out there, you know, baking in the sun and the grass is growing across this. This is crazy. Yeah, and those they've since moved and it's not there anymore. But uh we had it for a couple years, we were like, This is wild.

Tim 24:29

Do you guys are are you all in an hoa?

Zach 24:31

No.

Tim 24:32

I was because I was gonna say that that definitely wouldn't fly in an ho. No. So what I was gonna say was is we don't have an hoa here, obviously. But if if if it was between have an HOA and look at that skeleton until the end of time, I'll be watching that skeleton because I don't want an HOA. Yeah, defund the HOA. But and it's I don't really care that much. I'm it's funny because I say I don't care that much, and then I post a video that says that I do care, but I really don't care that much. It's just it's overstayed its welcome.

Zach 25:04

Right.

Tim 25:04

It's like I know, like, you know, when you go to somebody's house and you're hanging out there for a while and you're like, I think I've overstayed my welcome, it's time to go. It's like that's how I feel about that stuff. So, what were people saying about it when you posted about it? Were they upset that you were upset? No, I you know, they were just like, Yeah, the guy says he doesn't care, but apparently he does. And I'm like, Oh yeah. I mean, I did I did preface the whole thing with like, I, you know, I don't mind it. It's just it's overstayed its welcome. You know what? And there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, it's nothing wrong with that. And but people get vicious on their they do, you know, for or against something.

Zach 25:38

So it's like did did the one that you're talking about, did they do the other holidays, or was it just a bare skeleton?

Tim 25:44

It was a skeleton, and like at um at um Thanksgiving, they put like a pilgrim hat on it. You know, they they did good, they kept up with it and made it for the for the holidays, but you'll see it when you leave here. Just go down straight that way and take a left.

Zach 25:57

I think I saw one the other way, yeah, on the way in, but this way.

Tim 26:00

Yeah. Yeah. Well, there I my neighbor has one right here, but the one that I'm talking about is right down the road. You'll see it when you leave.

Zach 26:07

The thing is, like, we've talked about getting one because I I I do like them. Yeah, I think they're awesome. Uh they become more common now where it's not as like, oh, whoa, look at that skeleton. You know, the thing is, is I'm like, where do I put that the other you know, 11 months of the year? I don't have anywhere to put a 12-foot-tall skeleton, even when you break it down. Yeah, you have to break it down.

Tim 26:27

You still have to have like because the leg is you know six feet long.

Zach 26:32

Yeah, yeah. We we have a it's a it's like a 1950s ranch house, single level. They they took the garage and made it into a living room. It's very typical for our neighborhood. Yeah, and above that, so smaller than than where we're sitting right now is our attic storage area. There's no way I could put a skeleton up there, let alone get it through the door, yeah, up into the roof.

Tim 26:56

Yeah, it's you have to have space for it. So before you go out purchasing, because they've been not not only those skeletons now, they got tons of like other things.

Zach 27:05

I got scarecrows and it's a huge market for large uh yard ornaments. The bigger the better. Oh, that's what they say.

Tim 27:11

The bigger the better.

Zach 27:12

I love the ambiance we just got here. That was yeah.

Tim 27:14

Well, I turned it on because it's starting to get dark on the video. I'm having constantly having problems with my lighting, but look, I ain't no the life of a producer. I ain't no professional. Yeah, let me uh uh producer. Can you yeah, turn on the light? The light over there.

Zach 27:29

Man, I I do have to say I know we move on maybe to another topic, but uh the setup in here is really cool. And the the the this is all professional. I mean, the microphones, the headsets, the table like this is cool.

Tim 27:42

It's kind of janky. It's kind of professional to me. I've never seen any of this before. I mean, I like it. I I bought some little cameras to to use and I switched over to them, and the lighting was really bad with those, and it took me like five or ten episodes before I was like, this is the problem. Gotcha. And I went back to the iPhones because the iPhones, if you think about it, you've got a fantastic camera in your pocket. So these are all just cameras that like because I get I get a new phone every time a new one comes out. So I'm just like upgrade, upgrade, but keep the and so how do they how do they work? They record and they're hooked up to just uh they're hooked into so they're all hooked into the computer and I'm running it through an app to when I hit record, it's just it's using the phone just to record, so it's not putting it on the phone and taking up the storage, yeah. So it's storing it on my computer in this program, and then when I get done with it, I dump it in DaVinci Resolve and kind of fix it up, fix the sound and all that.

Zach 28:37

That's cool. Is that do you use the same thing when you post like the shorts? Is that what that is?

Tim 28:42

The shorts, I'll either do them in Da Vinci Resolve if there's a specific thing that I want, or most of the time the ones that you see online are from a program, like a website called Clap K L A P. Okay. And you just put the link of your YouTube video in it and it chops it up and gives you like and that's what does the text and the yeah, it puts it all on there. But I've been doing more and more lately of a manual because I feel like sometimes it doesn't give me exactly what I want. It's pretty good at pulling out some of the best moments, but I'm like, oh yeah, I said this thing that was kind of funny, and so I go and find it and just create one myself. Wild man. So, but that's my favorite part of doing it, like doing the content and everything. It's like it's fine, but like I like to do the other stuff. So maybe the Fairview Social Podcast, we need to hire like a host for it. You might, you might and then I'll just do the other stuff.

Zach 29:31

He's over there in the corner, like yeah, filling up beers. Yeah, exactly. I agree with you. I mean, like I said, when I did the YouTube thing, uh the content filming was a chore to me. Yeah, it was then when I got it back and could edit, and I was using Premiere Pro, and but the editing was fun, yeah. And then the anticipation of like how many people are gonna see this and what are they gonna say was like a rush.

Tim 29:54

Yeah, exactly. All of those things is exactly the way that I feel about it. It's it's weird. Because, like when I first started doing it, I was in DaVinci Resolve and I was having to cut every single, okay, now the camera's on Zach, cut it to there. Now it's on Tim, cut it to here. I got a plug-in from a thing called Auto Cut. And so you say, okay, this microphone goes to video one, this microphone, video two, and you say, you know, how energetic fast are you wanting it to switch? And are there three people? Are there four people? And you just do it and then hit the button and it's like and then I always have to watch it back through because sometimes, like, if something's funny and like I want it to be on you or me, it's like I'll have to switch it because it's just doing it's being AI, it's just giving you the I mean the fact that you can even do that is crazy. Yeah, it g it gives you a good starting point. So I can flip these things, like I might even post this thing tomorrow. And it's like I can flip them pretty quick now as to where before I'd be like, I'd do it, do it all, and then like it take me a week to do it. Yeah, in the very beginning, I did like four actual podcasts in a week, but it took me like a month to actually edit and do all that.

Zach 31:04

Yeah, no, I was yeah, when I was doing videos, I mean a 10-minute video, 20-minute video, it's gonna be like eight hours to edit the thing. Yeah, and then post it was like, gosh, yeah, I don't have the time now, but like I'd love to do it again. It was fun.

Tim 31:15

When I'm sitting at lunch and I'm like watching going through like my normal, just my TikTok stuff that I'm looking at anyway. It's like I'm watching video, like the people I watch some cooking videos and things like that, and they're you know, I'm watching how they're doing it. And I'm just like, you like the things that they're doing, they you would have to manually do all that. I'm just glad like like the cutscenes and that's yeah, you're having to cut it. I literally just take it and let it cut itself and then go in there and like, oh, I want this camera on instead. You know, uh you you know, you just uh silence that particular track there and then unsilence the other one. Watch, watch, watch, unsilence, silence, watch, watch. Oh, usually I have another camera over here. It's like, oh, I'll throw this in over here and then just turn that on. It's like it's it's really easy. It's cool.

Zach 32:02

I can't wait to listen back when I'm cutting the grass on Saturday.

Tim 32:04

Yeah, you could listen to yourself and see how well you did. Your wife's gonna be like, Zach, I don't know if you were did a good job on this.

Zach 32:13

I don't know, she's a she's a uh she's a huge cheerleader of me in anything that well that's good.

Tim 32:18

I didn't know that then. She you then you got a good wife.

Zach 32:21

When I told her I was coming on here, she was so excited, just like, well, that's so cool. Like you're doing it, and I was like, Yeah, and you know, I don't know what we're gonna say or talk about, it's just conversation. And she thought it was like awesome. She is by far the greatest cheerleader of like anything that I go after.

Tim 32:38

That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, that's it's good to have somebody like that. Yeah, all right. So we talked about that that stuff. So I was thinking about Halloween, and I was thinking about, you know, I have a hard time remembering things when I was a kid as I get older, it seems like. And so I was thinking, are are you and your wife, because you guys don't have any kids yet? No kids. And are you the type to where you guys celebrate Halloween and like get dressed up and do the thing and go to a party, or are you like the I don't want to have anything to do with it?

Zach 33:10

Man, I think we're somewhere in the middle. Honestly, I mean, every year we have a lot of kids in our neighborhood. Um the Halloween, I guess, has been like weird a couple years because it's been on like the middle of the week, and you don't know when like special this year night, yeah. Friday night, man.

Tim 33:24

It's big Friday the 13th, even.

Zach 33:26

I didn't realize that.

Tim 33:27

That's extra week. Is it Friday the 13th? What's today? The 9th. Well, how it can be Friday the 13th. No, the 31st. Because we're both idiots. Well, 13, 31. Yeah, I think that that's probably why. But anyway, it's on a Friday this year, which is not normal. Usually it's on like some, and it's all I don't know if it is on your your neighborhood things, but every single year. Is Halloween's on Tuesday this year? Are we gonna do trick-or-treating on Friday? No, we're not. We're doing it on Tuesday.

Zach 33:59

The day that it is is when we are doing it. Exactly. We we typically uh keep our front door, you know, open. We got like the glass, you know, door over it, and we'll keep it open and we'll make like a pot of chili or something. It's usually our first pot of chili for the year or something, pot of chili or something, hang out, and uh little kids come up and hand out candy, and I'm usually holding our dog back just trying to like get to the lick them or something.

Tim 34:24

Yeah, that's the thing. I and I and I mentioned that to on the last podcast with Mike and Joseph that like I wish that my neighbor because my neighborhood is is actually perfect for trick-or-treating because it's a loop and people can go and do it, but right now, like we're in a in a phase where like all the kids that are here are in a younger stage, yep, and there's not a ton of them. Yep. And usually people go to like the one neighborhood in town where everybody's at, and they're always having fun over there. I remember when I would take the kids trick-or-treating when they were younger, we'd go over there, and it's just like every time I walk up to a house and it's like raining or it's cold or whatever, and the people are all enjoying themselves, and I'm like, I gotta walk around and get candy or make sure my kids don't die like when they're getting our neighborhood, man.

Zach 35:11

It's funny you say because this is gonna sound like though they don't do it like they used to, but when we were getting to that age, you're yeah, cynical. When we were kids, I remember like going out on Halloween and just like there were people everywhere. Yeah, I mean, parents riding people around in like wagons and whatever, and and uh we get we get some we get a good number of kids, but it's not you know as big as I feel like it was, but yeah.

Tim 35:38

Yeah, back the back in the day it was a lot better.

Zach 35:40

And we used to go, we used to go to the when we were would finish in our neighborhood, we would go over to this other neighborhood uh in the area where I grew up that was like where all the huge you know houses were because they gave out king-sized candy for good candy, yeah. And so we'd all go over there and and walk around and get the big candy bar. That's awesome.

Tim 35:59

Yeah, what it it I feel bad because like I don't mind Halloween at all, I don't mind the spooky kind of stuff, but like as the kids were growing up and all that, or even when I was growing up, I was I was ready to be done with it when you get to that certain age to where you know, before you just like put a little, you know, football makeup on and carry a pillowcase just to just to get some candy, you know. It's like but like I never I never did anything after that. The kids did it up until about 13, 12 or 13, and then they had no more interest in it, in it. But I feel like that's on me because I didn't ever make it like special or like I mean how it's you don't necessarily want Halloween to be special, but you want it to be like I want to celebrate holidays more for sure. And it's like I never I never did any of that and I still don't do it.

Zach 36:49

I don't I don't know when I our last kind of like Halloween was, you know. Like I think back and I feel like it just kind of we just like kind of didn't do it anymore. I don't really it was probably somewhere around that age.

Tim 37:01

Uh well the reason I ask uh ask if you guys do anything because like you guys are are young and married, and so there's like um and you don't have any kids yet, and usually like when you're at that age, like you go to a party and you dress up and do all that, but there's a lot of people that I guess don't a lot of the one like yeah, we've been to a couple Halloween parties, I guess, over the years, but they're not on Halloween, they've been like the weekend before or or something like that, to where like actual Halloween day is you know when the kids come by.

Zach 37:31

And yeah, yeah, and I will say this November 1st in our house, that tree's gonna be up. Oh, oh, really? So okay, so you guys are one of those. Caitlin loves to celebrate holidays and birthdays. I mean, I my family when I was growing up, like you know, birthdays were not like a huge thing, you know. It was hey, happy birthday, we went to a dinner, you got like you know, a gift or whatever, and as I got older, you know, that changes. Caitlin's family is I mean, they go all in.

Tim 37:59

Well, it's good to have that balance you out because like you start realizing, like, yeah, I want to honor this person or I want this to be special for this person. And yeah, it's good that that you have her because when you guys do have kids, like she'll make a big deal out of it.

Zach 38:13

All out, yeah.

Tim 38:14

Because like I don't do that, and I've never done that, and I'm awful for it.

Zach 38:17

I think I'd be the same way, honestly. Like, if I if it if it wasn't for her, I don't know if I would go as hard. But like, yeah, I mean, every year since we've since we moved, even when we had our apartment, uh November 1st, that that tree's going up, there's some lights going up outside the house.

Tim 38:33

She's ready for the trilogy. Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year, she's ready for it. That's it. Yeah, there's always the debate. Uh, you know, people that do that, like, what about Thanksgiving? And roll it into one. And something that I do like about Thanksgiving is I like Thanksgiving and I kind of appreciate it more as I get older because it's like, be thankful for these things without the you know, the thing in the back of your head feeling like, oh, I didn't get you a present, or you know, like you don't have the whole present part of it. Right. And so I feel like Thanksgiving, as I get older, I I like it more. And me and Joseph are trying to carry on my dad's tradition of frying turkeys for the family and and just remembering remembering that kind of stuff. But I love Christmas, though.

Zach 39:20

Same.

Tim 39:20

Yeah, it's so it's so fun.

Zach 39:22

We have uh implemented a rule this year, and we've we tried to do it in years past and it hasn't worked out, but uh, we're trying to do a no gifts, uh let's go on an experience instead.

Tim 39:32

Oh, that's great.

Zach 39:33

Let's go on a trip, let's go enjoy something because we love to travel, we like to go places, and you can I guess we've just kind of gotten to the point where you know our house is is great for us. We'll have to move when we want to have kids. Like it's not big enough for a family, I don't think. But you just kind of get to the point where you're like, I don't, I don't really know. Like, there's something else that I need, right? Like, let's go experience something cool together, let's go do something that is is fun. Yeah, you know, that's what we're gonna try to do this year.

Tim 39:58

You should you should definitely do that. That's me and Nikki have been doing that more uh lately, probably over the past few years of like, you know, yeah, you can get somebody a gift. Well, especially with you two. Obviously, like you can get your mom a gift or get family members a gift, but like instead of getting something for each other, like, hey, let's go have this experience. Yep, let's go have do this fun thing. I've been trying to be intentional of doing that stuff just normal. I think last year I tried to start or the past year or two ago. I was like, I want to, because we never do anything. And this goes on the whole holiday thing when I said that like I'm really bad about celebrating holidays. Or the original thought for this is like, I'm gonna get one of those holiday calendars. And you know, not the ones, I'm not the ones where it's like every day because that it's a little too excessive, but I'm I'm gonna get a calendar and I'm gonna celebrate every damn holiday on there. It's uh, you know, it's whatever day it is, it doesn't matter, you know, whatever the thing is. And like I didn't do it at all, but so I try to be intentional, like me and Nikki go and do something, or I'll get tickets to a show, or because we went through this, we're trying to figure out how to like function without the kids being around all the time because you you you kind of groove your mind when you have kids and they're growing up to like you're just okay, we need to do these things, or we're taking care of the kids, we're supporting the things that they're doing, and you forget about yourself. And now it's like, all right, well, we're gonna go see a movie or we're gonna go do whatever. We got tickets to um um the uh you ever seen it over at the factory, how they got the studio 10 stuff over there. They're like plays, and you can get season tickets. I think there's like five or six plays. Okay, and so the first play is actually next not this weekend, but next weekend is Dracula. And sometimes they're seasonal type things, but it's fun to go to the factory, have a few drinks, something to do, yeah, do to go out and do something because for years we never did any. You still have the mafiosas at the factory? I think it's still there.

Zach 42:00

Yeah, it's a great spot. Yeah, the one, the one uh we used to go to all the time in what's that 12 South? Yeah, closed down.

Tim 42:07

Did it really? Yeah, the factory. It's new Nashville, man. New Nashville. Yeah. When's the last time you were at the factory?

Zach 42:14

It's been a minute.

Tim 42:15

Yeah, it's it's it would be completely different if you went there now. It's it's nuts out there. Okay. I mean, it's like it's beautiful. Like what they've done with it, they've they've built it up and it's really nice. It's got shops, places to eat. I mean, it's a great hangout place. Okay, and so check it out. Yeah, you should check it out.

Zach 42:33

Our thing right now is is it inconsistently, but we're trying to like a Saturday morning get up and like go somewhere and get breakfast or like go get coffee or so because it's sound it sounds small, but like it's not something it's something to do. And uh I found I shouldn't say I found because it's been there forever, but uh in Leapers Fork, the the Country Boy Breakfast Man. Country Boy Breakfast as a special place.

Tim 42:58

And what's really fun is driving out through Leapers Fork, it's beautiful out there, and you can you know, you you're over there, you see Puckets and everything else over there, and it's it's so nice in that little downtown area through there. And Country Boy Man, it it had been going it gone in and out of like business and people buying it and get keeping it going because it because it's fantastic.

Zach 43:19

It's so good, and it's like breakfast how you it's no none of this, like yeah, you know, it's just it's straight to the point on a paper plate. Like, yeah, so it's just what you want.

Tim 43:27

It's country breakfast.

Zach 43:28

It's fantastic.

Tim 43:29

Well, as a as a person that's probably got about uh uh 20 years on you uh of marriage, uh my advice to you would be is do those things, and then when you guys do start a family, like having kids, if you guys do decide to do that, try to continue to do those things. It might not be as often, but do those things because you don't you get so wrapped up in day-to-day life and working, gotta make money, gotta, you know, we need a bigger house because now we've got a thousand kids, and it's like you just run into all that and it sucks to feel that.

Zach 44:00

I think about like when I was a kid and you know, I played in travel baseball and doing all those things, and like the time that my parents put into like toting me around for that, and then my brother playing soccer and doing all these things, and I'm like, at this point now, where I look back, I'm like, what did you know what you know? We used to go on trips and stuff as a family, but I'm like, what did what did you guys do for yourselves? And I appreciate all the time you put into us, but yeah, yeah, they probably didn't do much, yeah. You know, it's like but now they are. I mean, no they have none of us, and they're setting up.

Tim 44:29

Well, they're living life, they should that's one of the things I'm grateful for that we had kids when we were younger because now we're you know, it's like I'm only 44, you know.

Zach 44:38

I know when you said like they're all grown and gone, and I'm like, God, like I I'm like not that old.

Tim 44:44

I think that we the intention that we had was to have the kids when we were younger because you know, I didn't want to be like really old having kids, not old, old. I mean, I don't think it's out of the question to have a kid after you're 35 or 40 at all, but I didn't I want it, I didn't I'm glad that I did it when I was younger that way, like now, because Jack is actually our youngest Jack, he's he's 18, and him and his girlfriend went and stayed at um her aunt's house because they're dog sitting. So he's been gone for a week. And so like me and Nikki are like sitting there, and we're just like, all right, well, this is what it's gonna look like. And we're like, this is awesome. What do you want to do? Yeah, I mean, it's awesome to have them here, but it's all also awesome to like you know, have you know what you never had before.

Zach 45:31

Yeah.

Tim 45:32

I mean, I married into because Nikki had Eli. Uh, he was two or three when I met them, and so it was like immediately married into a family, yeah. Instant dad.

Zach 45:41

Instant instant dad.

Tim 45:42

Yeah. The the place that you're at right now in your marriage is like we never had that beginning where you're like with each other and you're trying to build your career and figure it all out, and then hey, we're gonna you're doing it smart. I don't I mean, I just doing it backwards, I guess.

Zach 45:57

Yeah, I don't know. I I think our standpoint, uh I shouldn't speak for Caitlin, but uh we both obviously like really want kids. Yeah. Um, but my opinion on it is it is if we're blessed with that, amazing. And if it's not in the cards for us, then I'm okay with that too, because we have a great life together.

Tim 46:13

Well, that's good. When you you gotta have somebody that you like for sure. Yeah, for sure.

Zach 46:18

There's a lot of and and when you asked me how long it's been since we've seen each other, and I said five years, it made me think too like we've been married for four years now. Yeah, and and it's just flown by.

Tim 46:28

I think you got engaged like around the time you were leaving, or we got engaged in 2019, and then we were supposed to get married in 2020, obviously. Yeah, and so then it got postponed.

Zach 46:42

We postponed it a year, and then we got married in December of 21. Yeah, yeah.

Tim 46:48

That's crazy. It it's it has been a long time. It's crazy, but like even sitting here talking to you now, it feels like when I saw you before.

Zach 46:55

I know sitting sitting up in the what was the the crow's nest or whatever it was, sitting up in the crow's nest, up there wrestling, everybody's up there wrestling, wrestling, making too much noise.

Tim 47:04

Yeah, that's funny. Oh, yes. I wanted to show you. I have a couple things to show you on the screen here. Um, you can look at this this one right here. It's they're the same. So you you were a big part of like two sad dads for the listeners out there. Zach was actually how many you were you in one or two episodes? I wasn't in any episodes. You were you were in one because when we were out there at Temple Hills.

Zach 47:31

Oh, yes, yes, I forgot about that.

Tim 47:33

And the reason that I know that is because when we started doing the two sad dads podcast, like I went back and listened to all those old ones, and I'm like, these are awful.

Zach 47:41

Can you still I thought that didn't Mike like delete a bunch?

Tim 47:43

Well, I should delete our subject, he deleted a few of the episodes that he deemed inappropriate, right? And Mike, my uh response to that is here at the Fairview Social Podcast, nothing's appropriate, and we don't delete we don't delete perfectly good podcasts, it's content, it's content, but he deleted a few of them because they probably weren't appropriate, and we were all worried about it at the time, but there was several of them that um I think there was like 13 of them that are on Spotify still.

Zach 48:14

Yeah, I had to listen to Do You Care If I Look Real Fast?

Tim 48:17

No, I don't care.

Zach 48:18

I had listened to um well, all of them at the time.

Tim 48:22

Let's see. But there was the one where it was me, you, Joseph, Mike, Daniel, Sarah, maybe another person. Yes, where we went to Temple Hills and we were playing golf.

Zach 48:34

That's right.

Tim 48:35

That's right. Of course, it we you know, we we were podcasting like while we were eating, which was like the worst decision every time, yeah.

Zach 48:46

And we used it, it wasn't just like an iPhone. Yeah, it was like a table in the middle of the table. So there's there's eight episodes of Two Sad Dads still on there. Uh and looking through the titles of these reminded me like Corey's doghouse. Oh, yeah. What a spot. Yeah. Uh you guys always went to I Dream of Weenie. Yeah, we went there a lot. Is that still there?

Tim 49:07

It's not. They actually they actually got rid of it probably not it not too long ago. Mike and Daniel will tell you for sure because they keep an eye on that. But the hot dogs were pretty good there, they were great. But um, but yeah, so we did a couple episodes there. We did some in some other places, but we called you. I remember we were asking you to be our uh what were you like our artistic design or something? I can't remember. And so that two sad dads, I think I forgot all about that picture when I when we did the the two sad dads return. Yes, and then the next episode, because somebody had sent me that picture, I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot about it. Yes, of like the Nashville what a throwback. And it had Farrell in it. Yes, and so for the listeners that don't know Farrell, and when I broke my feet several years ago, like I was going crazy in my house. And so I was sitting there in my kitchen and I in in or in my dining room in close to the kitchen, like it had windows all the way around it. And I would take bags of um of Mexican restaurant chips that they give you to go, and I would put them out there so the squirrel would come and hang out with me. And that squirrel would come all the time and hang out with me and just be nibbling on his bag of chips every day. And so I named him Farrell, and he became like my best friend. So I'm gonna show you a picture of well, since then, Farrell has become any squirrel that I see. Of course, yeah. Oh, there's Farrell, right? Or there's Farrell, he's everywhere, but this is the OG Farrell. That's right. That's look at him eating his chips there.

Zach 50:42

And I think to you know, I can't speak for feral, but I think feral feral's more of a mindset, you know.

Tim 50:48

Like he's he's everywhere, it's pretty good, you know. It's like Farrell was uh he got me through it. And when Mike had surgery on his foot a couple years ago, I got him this care package of all these squirrel things, like squirrel sock, squirrel finger, finger puppets. That's amazing. And so, but that's the OG Farrell. And so I still I found that picture today, and so then I was I was looking at some news things, and I came across this this news thing right here, this aggressive, very mean, quote unquote, very mean squirrel seeking food has sent at least two people to the ER in California City. I mean, it look at that squirrel. Do you think that's uh feral? It is feral. Feral is everywhere. So somebody in California has um made this uh feral entity angle. Look at him, he's like looks like he's a wrestling or something.

Zach 51:50

I love it. It says it says this is not a joke. More than five people have been attacked by a very mean squirrel on Diablo Circle. Diablo Circle, California. Y'all better watch out.

Tim 52:02

Yeah, this that squirrel, he's it's it's ready, man.

Zach 52:05

But and how did somebody take that picture? I don't know, I guess so.

Tim 52:10

But yeah, so Farrell was in that picture of the two sad dads stuff. Um, you drew that. I remember we were giving you a bunch of shit about it. We're like, we need you to draw us the most amaz for the best podcast in the world. We need you to draw the best picture. Yeah, and so you to do that chicken scratch, where like it needs to be like Nashville, we need Farrell in there, we need all this, and then you gave us this, and we're like, this is brilliant.

Zach 52:35

The headphones on the Batman.

Tim 52:37

Yeah, the headphones on the Batman.

Zach 52:40

Just think if we had AI then.

Tim 52:42

I know it could have been that's how I made that logo and also the two sad dads. Uh the first picture I put on there, I was like, put four old guys crying and make it say two sad dads. And it's like it comes up with that. I'm like, that'll work. So good. And then I forgot about the the original picture, so I used it next time. We were supposed to have the two sad dads on that last episode when we called. I don't know if you listened to it, but we called Daniel on it.

Zach 53:08

Yeah. And um, so we got Daniel in there, but yeah, he but I he couldn't couldn't make it or he couldn't make it.

Tim 53:15

It's hard to get four people together. Yeah, of course.

Zach 53:17

It was hard, yeah.

Tim 53:18

I mean, it works out fine for me because this is where I live, so I don't have to go anywhere to do it. I think that that's why it never worked out before because nobody wanted to like drive to wherever they had to go. Yeah, but like you were talking about earlier, now that my equipment is a little bit more professional, it's like, hey, this is kind of weird. Yeah, no, come on here.

Zach 53:37

This feels like a real a real deal, real pod. Yeah.

Tim 53:40

Um, the next story that's on here, since we're talking about spooky season, I was gonna ask you this, and I'll give you a second to think about it. But in Ghana, this is a fantasy coffin. So these people in Ghana are making these coffins look like characters of some sort. What do you what do you think about that? What would you like this submarine type or this yacht looking thing? I mean, that one's pretty cool. Look at this. This is a uh syringe.

Zach 54:11

That's those are just reserved for uh certain circumstances.

Tim 54:17

What's wrong with these people? Look at this one, a crab coffin. So, what do you think about that? What how what would you get if it was you? Look at this look at this school one.

Zach 54:27

You know, man, I think it's I think it's great. You know, let's be more creative in the world. You know, I love it. I love it. It's more surprised that nobody made the joke of the uh but what was that submarine uh we shouldn't joke about that, but yeah, it's it's an internet meme at this point.

Tim 54:43

Nothing's off limits on the Fairy Social Podcast. It actually made me think about like when I would go to Haiti all the time, like this really has nothing to do with it, but they had coffin, they have um the grave sites are above ground because of flooding and stuff like that. Right. But if your loved one dies, you can rent the space. So you can rent it for like a year, two years, three years, and then you gotta get them out. How does that work? I don't know. I'd always thought it was so weird. I'm like, I don't know that I want to ask. I need more information on that. That's that's very interesting.

Zach 55:17

I know, but I think mine, man, I think mine would be like a like an airplane or something. That'd be pretty sweet.

Tim 55:23

Yeah, what would mine be? Mine would be like maybe my dog Frank. That's sick. Have somebody carve this big, I mean, it'd have to be a real big one because I'm pretty big, so it'd be like real big Frank. Yeah, and it seems like it'd be more fun than the usual.

Zach 55:39

I agree, man. Yeah, I mean, there's that look, that's a work of art, you know. Uh the other ones all kind of look the same.

Tim 55:45

So I mean, my outlook this peacock.

Zach 55:49

Look at that. Who is then who's fitting in that? Like that thing's that thing's I don't know, man. Look at that beard one back there.

Tim 56:01

Look at the the pepper there.

Zach 56:03

I do like that. I could go, I could go out and jalapeno.

Tim 56:06

Go out and jalapeno. Look at that. I mean, my my outlook on this is like funerals here are so just it's I know that it's sad for people. Plane. There's your plane one over there.

Zach 56:21

Go ahead and ship that to my uh to my address. I'll be ready for that one.

Tim 56:24

I know that it's sad when people die, you know, but it should be a celebration for sure. And and if I set this up before I die to be buried in that plane, yeah. And you know what? Wheel me in. Like just push it over the yeah, you just push it across the across the floor.

Zach 56:39

And it's runs into something. Man, I want I want people to be it's a long way off, hopefully, for me. And but uh I want people to be happy. You know we never know, man. No, you sure don't. Speaking of airplanes, it's just reminded me on my way in here. Uh there's somebody in this town selling an airplane. Oh, really? Um on you come in on the main highway, you know, there's like that. You're a pilot, aren't you? Well, not I don't have a license, so still uh working on that, you know. Anyway, it takes forever, but yeah. Um like when you come first into town, there's that like shell, I think, gas station on the left. Yeah, there's like that car dealer on the right. Yeah, I think there's like some sheds for sales.

Tim 57:19

Is there a plane over there?

Zach 57:20

There is, it's like a home-built airplane, and I want to know more about it.

Tim 57:24

I need to check that out. I might I might check that out on the way to work tomorrow. Yeah, you should.

Zach 57:28

It'll be on your left, and it's face it'll be facing like toward you. They've got like the front facing like this direction.

Tim 57:34

I usually get on the interstate so I don't go by there. So every now and then if I'm coming home from Franklin, I'll come through there, but I need to check that out for sure.

Zach 57:41

It's cool. It's like a home-built, like you know, uh like a skeleton with like the fabric wings kind of deal.

Tim 57:45

It's really cool. Do you think it actually works though? I mean, it'd be pretty awesome.

Zach 57:50

If you get it going fast enough, it'll fly. Yeah, I guess that's how that works. Coming down will be tough.

Tim 57:56

What I was gonna ask you too is I don't know how much you get into this kind of stuff, but I'm real big on like aliens and all that kind of stuff. UFOs. Yeah. What do you think about this three eye atlas thing? Have you read about that? No, it's like this this uh they thought it was a comet that's coming towards Earth, but like they think it's like this alien spaceship.

Zach 58:18

Hey, why not?

Tim 58:18

I know, yeah.

Zach 58:20

Let them come. I'd love to meet them.

Tim 58:23

I know, bring them on uh on in here.

Zach 58:25

It's it I don't know if I think y'all maybe it got into this on one of the shows, but like I love God, I love the Lord, yeah. I go to church, but like isn't it kind of crazy to think that like in this infinite universe that we don't listen, man, you know, like that there's nothing else out there.

Tim 58:42

I a hundred percent agree. I'm all for the Lord, and but when we have an infinite universe, it's very, very naive to think that we're the only thing here.

Zach 58:51

Like our minds literally can't comprehend how big the universe is because it's infinite.

Tim 58:56

Yeah, it's it's crazy to think that, but I I'm I'm always like you you gotta you gotta be careful like what you read because everybody wants to have a story or everybody wants to have some kind of post that they put on, you know, that they know this thing, or they saw this UFO and they saw these things. And but I love looking at looking at that stuff, of course, researching it and figuring, okay, well, this is bullshit or this one's okay. And it's like you know, I just I love reading. I eat it up, man.

Zach 59:24

I really do. Like if there's a if there's a uh kind of a pseudo-made uh documentary, yeah, uh maybe a fictional documentary that's on Netflix or something, I am watching that.

Tim 59:34

Yeah, I love it for sure, man. I I love that stuff too.

Zach 59:37

I watched one, uh, I think it was during COVID, and it was I'd have to look up the name of the guy. He's probably pretty popular in the UFO community, but uh he worked at Area 51 and like tried to be a whistleblower or something, and then like you're talking about Bob Lazar? Bob Lazar, that's the guy.

Tim 59:53

Did you watch that? Well, it's like I've researched Bob Lazar, like he was he was hired uh to back engineer like Yeah. The prop propulsion system for the for the spacecraft. Yeah. And so you got like half the people that are like, no, he's full of crap, and this and that and the other. And then you got some people that are like, nah, it's like, but when you listen to him speak, you're just like, man, this dude's like he knows something. He has a little tremble in his voice. Bob Lazar. He's he was kind of hiding out there for like 20 or 30 years because you know they were coming after him. Yeah, he got, did he get whacked? No, he didn't get whacked. He's still alive. Is he? And so now he's he does some talking about it now, but not as much as he was a while back. But how do we get Bob Lazar on the pod? He probably wouldn't come. He probably wouldn't come to the Fairview Social podcast. Something that's funny is I've been trying to get Theo Vaughn to come on the podcast. And the reason I'm trying to get him to come on because he lives in Nashville. Right. He lives in like Green Hills area. And so I keep on like emailing him and I'm like, say I'm like, hey Theo, is this getting to be like a stand situation here? It's need you to come on the podcast. But because you know, out of all the famous people that I can think about, like he would probably be more likely to just be like, I want to see what's going on with this idiot than than you know if you're trying to call anybody else up or anybody famous.

Zach 1:01:11

He seems like uh I admittedly I haven't watched a ton of Theobant, but I know who he is and seen some shows. And I feel like he wildly successful, probably makes a ton of money from it. Everybody knows who he is, but he doesn't seem like it's kind of gotten to him.

Tim 1:01:28

Yeah, he's not douchey or anything like that.

Zach 1:01:30

Yeah, so like I don't feel like he'd be above, you know, calling on something.

Tim 1:01:33

I'm gonna try it. I'll see if he'll come out. C B mailing. I'd be like, hey man, you want to come out to the country out here in Fairview, Tennessee, and show you show you how to relax out here and hang out. I love Fairview. I know.

Zach 1:01:45

I really do. We need to move out here. Well, it's it's funny. So we actually over the last couple years have looked very seriously at a couple houses that have come up on the market, and and one of them had had paperwork ready to go, and then and just at the end were like fell through, or you just pulled out. We just were like at the end of the day, like we're you know, we'd be doubling our current mortgage, yeah. Interest rates at that time were just so crazy high, and the the house was you know expensive, and it was to the point where like, you know, we could afford it, but it was like, Yeah, do we really want to kind of deal? But we came out here. I'm telling you, Tim, like we came out for a month and a half Saturday mornings. We'd go get coffee at the the red uh like the truck the coffee truck. Oh, jingo Java. Yeah, we'd go there, we went to Fairview Donuts, we came and got Mexican food, we went through the public. It's like you were trying to live here, but not really like yeah, we did the stuff because we were like, we got to get a feel for it.

Tim 1:02:35

We gotta see what it's like to be a Fairview, and and I really, really liked it. Honestly, I did. I love it, man. It's like I it's growing like crazy. I I get I'm kind of torn on it, but it's like at the end of the day, it's like I if I would wouldn't mind moving out of this place into a different place that maybe a different four floor plan is what we're looking for. Yeah, but the problem with it is like I can't afford to move back into Fairy View if I sold my house.

Zach 1:03:00

Right.

Tim 1:03:00

Yeah. And so it's like we we just stay here.

Zach 1:03:03

I feel that it's kind of like us that we're like if we sold our house, we'd maybe be able to buy the same house again.

Tim 1:03:08

Yeah, exactly. But but usually you you're God will lead you into whether to do this thing or not. And apparently, like whenever you were thinking about doing it and you pulled out of the situation, it's for the best.

Zach 1:03:20

I think so.

Tim 1:03:21

Something better or something different will come along.

Zach 1:03:23

I think so. Where our our sights right now are set on just uh being out of the city a little bit more and trying to get like a little bit of land, and which you kind of got the best of both worlds here, right? Because you have all this.

Tim 1:03:33

Yeah, we got the land back here, and then and then you know it's definitely cool because it's not like houses that are right on top of each other, yeah. And so we like that, but all the new houses they're building out here now are pretty pretty close to each other. They are, and some of these smaller 70s, 80s houses out here are going for like half a million dollars. And I'm like, no, I know what those I live, I grew up in that house. Yeah, I'm not paying uh half a million dollars for everybody wants to be in Williamson County, man.

Zach 1:04:01

I know it's I will say I think the only thing the only thing about Fairview that that obviously is changing was that they didn't really have a downtown, right? And so now with the new town center that they're building, and um I think you know, obviously that's gonna change, but you know, you come out here and you with the price of a lot of these newer houses, and you start thinking about the like you're like, what you know, I still have to go to drive to Franklin or whatever. And so at the time it didn't really feel like there was a lot out here. Obviously, that's changing.

Tim 1:04:29

Yeah, I actually noticed yesterday or the day before they started. You might have seen it whenever you came through here, but they started putting the post up for the lights in front of the city center over there. Yeah, and so immediately I was like, Oh, that's cool. And then I was like, Oh, this is gonna make traffic more of a nightmare because it's been kind of sucking like over the past few years out here. Yeah, I'd imagine they'll probably widen widen the road, I think. Yeah, that's been the talk. They say it's a T dot thing, it's not a city thing. So we'll see what happens with that.

Zach 1:04:57

Turn into like a Spring Hill situation, yeah.

Tim 1:04:59

But it's funny to think Fairview's like a pretty much just like a five-mile shot across to until you get to like Dixon. Yeah, five or six miles across Fairview, and it's like all there was nothing you could drive from like one side to the other in like five minutes, and now it's like now we got the city center, now we got all we got a Papa John's now. We got all these. Yeah, we got Papa John's out here ready to rock and roll.

Zach 1:05:24

I'll tell you the the and you obviously been here a long time. So tell me if I ate it the wrong spot, but the dos margaritas was fantastic. Mexican.

Tim 1:05:33

I love I I honestly I like all of them, all of all of the Mexican restaurants, but all for different reasons. Okay, like Dos Margaritas, best salsa. Okay, I love their salsa more than the other ones because it's not runny, right? Sometimes, like at Cano's and La Plaza, you can get some runny salsa, but dos margaritas is like chunky.

Zach 1:05:52

Yeah, it's like I love salsa, yeah.

Tim 1:05:54

I do too. So La Plaza, go to La Plaza because there's a drive-thru.

Zach 1:05:58

Okay.

Tim 1:05:59

So if there's drive-thru Mexican. I know. Well, it used to be a Hardy's.

Zach 1:06:02

Uh-huh.

Tim 1:06:03

We used to call it El Hardito's back because it used to be a Hardy's and then it closed down and was vacant for years and years and years, and then the people with the La Plaza bought it and put that in Fairview, and they used that drive-through. They kept a drive-thru, which is awesome. That's amazing. And then they rebuilt the Hardy's down the road like 10 years later, which I thought was funny. They closed the Hardy's down just to build another one. And then just to build another one. But um, so if I get La Plaza, it's because I want takeout and I just want to eat it at home. Okay. And then Kano's is usually like the place that I go because Armando, I don't know if you saw the podcast with Armando, but I definitely want to support him and and uh, you know, their food is great. And they got a couple, um, they got a food truck actually down there by 96 by the interstate. Or not food truck, they got a like a small building right off the interstate, and they do have a food truck they take to different places, and he's got a little market here in town.

Zach 1:06:58

But I'm gonna check that one out.

Tim 1:07:00

Yeah, you go, you get you it's just for whatever because they're all taste good to me. Yeah, it's just for whatever situation you're well, then and then Fairview Donuts. Fairview Donuts is the king of donuts. What a spot. And everybody I've talked to over the years, you know, we everybody says, Oh no, this is the best donut, or this place, or that place. And every time I bring Fairview Donuts into work, they're like, This is the best donut. Yeah, because I'm not sure because I'm not I don't I've never been to all these. Obviously, I've had like Krispy Kreme and Dunkin' and all that. And Fairview Donuts is lighters better than that.

Zach 1:07:34

And it's cheap.

Tim 1:07:35

Yeah, and it's cheap. Like it's good. That apple fritter, man. You take a bite of that, and it's kind of like crunchy, yeah, and also like soft.

Zach 1:07:43

I got a bag of donut holes. Yeah, I think Caitlin got the apple fritter, and then I got the the chocolate milk because you got to. Yeah, it's fantastic. But I love that like soft, like a shipleys or like fairview donuts, like that's the kind of donut I like. I don't like all the cake donuts.

Tim 1:07:58

I'm the same. I like that. I Dunkin' Donuts is just awful.

Zach 1:08:02

I'm not a fan.

Tim 1:08:03

It's like they put we've got two, two of them here in town. Two, yeah, and I wish that Fairview Donuts would like open another location or something and just put the nail in the coffee for them because they suck take down corporate Klombo Dunkin' Donuts. Everybody loves Fairview Donuts, though. They're I mean, Riley will tell you like they've driven out here before just to get them. Yeah, just from I believe it.

Zach 1:08:25

I believe it. I mean, like I said, we came out here multiple weekends and and we Fairview Donuts was like every time we came out because we come in the mornings and and do that.

Tim 1:08:32

Caitlin like, hey, on your way home, get some Fairview Donuts. They open? No, unfortunately, they're closed. They close pretty early. But yeah, that place is definitely like a good a Fairview treasure. Everybody what I like about Fairview is they're everybody's very supportive of like the you know the the home hometown businesses and things like that. So it's still as it's growing, it still has a good hometown feel to it.

Zach 1:08:57

And I've heard the I haven't been, but the publics and the Walmart are among the best in Middle Tennessee.

Tim 1:09:02

Yeah, they are. The Walmart is probably the cleanest one. And it's sad that like that's the that's the that's how you gauge it, but it drives me crazy though. Like I still get mad. When we first when they first open the Walmart, and it's like they and they've kept it clean, don't get me wrong. It's been it stayed clean, it's nice, it's smaller than most Walmarts. But my biggest thing that I hate more than anything is when you get a cart and it's like hate it. Yeah, I'll go through 10 carts to make sure that I have a good one. 100%. And so like when they first open, it's like it's perfect, it's smooth, smooth driving, and now it's like there's more of those, and I was like, you guys gotta get this figured out. But you go to Publix, all of them are perfect. Well, shopping's a pleasure, always it is a pleasure, yeah. And so if anybody from Walmart is listening to this, not just in Fairview, just you know what? If anybody is in any kind of industry where there's a cart, please make sure that all you gotta do is take a wrench. Looks like it's probably half inch, yeah, and you just tighten those suckers down because customers don't like this. We don't want the squeaky cart, no squeaky cart and the ones that's like veering off to the right.

Zach 1:10:11

Like we gotta be better than that, but we do need to be better than that.

Tim 1:10:14

It's unbelievable, it's unacceptable, guys.

Zach 1:10:16

Especially for the prices of groceries nowadays, and then you have fix your carts, yeah.

Tim 1:10:21

Fix your carts because and then I had to like check these out myself. I had to do the self-checkout.

Zach 1:10:26

Yeah, that's a whole I we could go on forever about that, man. Downfall of society.

Tim 1:10:31

It is like I need somebody to check. I mean, I'll do it myself, but it's like, hey, maybe throw in like a 10%. I was gonna say exactly 10% off paying a salary, tell me 10% off. It's fine. Give me 10% off this hundred dollar, $200 order here.

Zach 1:10:45

Yeah, it's like and I have to admit, like, I don't do a ton of the grocery shopping in our household. Caitlin is, I mean, she she does it and she's a saint for it.

Tim 1:10:53

Look, you're just fighting for your wife. It's like, hey, she's going through the self-checkout.

Zach 1:10:57

That's it. And and you know, she comes home and she tells me that the price of bell peppers is through the roof, and I have to believe her on that because I I don't know. And you know, if if we're gonna charge as much as we are for bell peppers, we gotta fix the cards.

Tim 1:11:08

Yeah, you gotta fix the cards. Exactly, man. I mean, I guess I'm happier with the self-checkouts being there as opposed to back before they started doing self-checkouts. It's like they would have, you know, a hundred lanes and like two of them would be open. That's right. So I think that that's why they did the self-checkout, but it's God forbid you try to buy some beer to self-checkout. I know it's a little out of hand now with all the self-checking out that's going on around here. But yeah, it's um yeah, the Fairview, the Fairview stores, everything out here, it would have been great to have you come out here to move out here.

Zach 1:11:43

Well, and there's still time.

Tim 1:11:44

Maybe in the future. There's still time, yeah. Did Caitlin like it out here? She did, yeah, she really did. Um is she from around here originally? She's from Brentwood. So from Brentwood, yeah. And where are you from originally? Uh like Mount Juliet, old area. So you guys are still in town. It's not like you were in like a different state or something.

Zach 1:12:00

No, yeah. We we met we met in high school and uh dated all through that and college, etc. So we're where we live, we're we're definitely closer to her family, but we're not far from mine here.

Tim 1:12:11

Yeah. No, that's good. That's you guys, this is your hometown, this Nashville area. So yeah, yeah. I couldn't remember if you like lived somewhere else and and moved here from a different state. I can't remember.

Zach 1:12:23

No, and I think you know, with just as much as Nashville's grown, I mean you're in it out in it every single day, too. Like getting out of the city like this would be would be great, or yeah, even a little further.

Tim 1:12:35

I know. The problem is is the trap, I was thinking about moving out further, and I'm like, well, I still got to go through this traffic to get out further. So it's like you're in a lose-lose situation no matter what. Yeah.

Zach 1:12:44

So can y'all y'all do any work from home with your stuff?

Tim 1:12:47

Or um, I mean, I can do my job from anywhere. I like to go into the office. I go through phases of like where I want to like, because this is perfect out here to work, yeah, because you don't have any distractions. You can look out there in the field. And but I like to go into work to maintain a routine. If I need to work from home, I will, but but um, but most of the time I just I like to go in because I like to I'm I'm I'm in that generation that's like I'm in the in-between to where everybody wants to work from home. And then you have people that like to maintain that. I like to have both.

Zach 1:13:20

I agree. I'm the same way. And I don't, I'm not great at working from home, admittedly. Like I I have two, you know, big screens and I like to be at my desk and do that. Kate works from home full time, yeah. She's great at it. Um if I could do what I do in a better setup, I might do it more. And we're allowed to like a couple days a week if we want to.

Tim 1:13:41

Yeah.

Zach 1:13:41

But yeah.

Tim 1:13:42

Yeah, you gotta have a spot for it. You do. It's funny. I was telling somebody this yesterday that you know, when this house was appraised originally when I was buying it, they didn't include this office out here. It was basically they gave nothing for it because it was a glorified shed because there's no bathroom out here. Okay. And a lot of money was put into building this.

Zach 1:14:02

Yeah.

Tim 1:14:03

And so fast forward to this was literally in 2020, right before COVID. After COVID in 2021, 2022, in the midst of COVID, I got the house appraised and they tacked on to like another $50,000 because everybody was working from home.

Zach 1:14:20

Right.

Tim 1:14:21

You know, so it took it made the house value go up as opposed to just a couple years before it wasn't anything. And so uh it all of a sudden became really important because you know, this is when Zoom got popular and and do, you know, just any kind of online meetings and all that. Yeah, which is perfect for that.

Zach 1:14:37

This is I mean, this is a cool, really cool spot. Is it heated?

Tim 1:14:42

It is wow, it's got the heaters on the wall there. Oh, yeah. It's like this you can't see it probably because that TV over there, but there's a little box I can control it from Apple home. So I try to keep it to where I don't want my stuff in here. I don't I used to just turn the heat off and go in, but then I put this uh electric thing on here so I can just keep it at a certain level. Freeze out here. Yeah, because I I don't want to come home from work and then come out here and have to wait for it to heat up. Yeah, it's like I just want it to stay.

Zach 1:15:09

Can you have like uh I mean you like cigars and stuff like can you have cigars out here and stuff? Look, Zach, I'm a grown man. Well, no, I'm not gonna be but like so and the reason I bring it up is is um a friend of mine uh is is doing like a an Instagram slash YouTube series. He um has a lawn uh channel, and right now he's renovating his shed to be a like hangout slash like cigar lounge. So he's partnered with like Nelson Screenbrier to like get barrels like put up on the walls, and the company sent him like these big fans that like suck all the air like out of the room so they they can sit in there and like smoke cigars, but like you would never know it.

Tim 1:15:53

I need that. I need to get into that. Listen, you know, back in the day when you were doing two sad dads, you you helped us in the artistic department, new old brand deals, yeah. Maybe I need you to help me with that because we've had cigars out here before, and I don't mind doing it at all. But what usually ends up happening is like for two weeks after, yeah, it's just all I smell is like cigar, right? And then it eventually goes away because it's not like I'm out here all the time smoking cigars, but me and Joseph and my son, we all were out here one time and we were smoking cigars, and I've had you know, not on the podcast, just hanging out with some friends out here, but but yeah, that would be cool to have some kind of ventilation system.

Zach 1:16:34

Yeah, it is like a whole thing, and he he's building it all himself, and they just had a a second baby, and so he's like balancing this, trying to build this and do content with it and run a business at the same time, and and having a baby. And it's been cool to his following has has really taken off from this little series. That's awesome. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I'll have to check that out. Who'd you say it was? His name's Tyler. The the YouTube channel is um the lawn review. He does like you know, lawn care tips and and reviews a lot of equipment and stuff, but right now he's doing the the shed renovation.

Tim 1:17:07

I thought about doing uh I thought about doing a um a lawn, like an episode of like lawn care stuff because like that's the business that I'm in.

Zach 1:17:16

Yeah.

Tim 1:17:16

Because you know, you're supposed to talk about things that you know about, and I don't really know about anything other than I know pizzas and lawn care. I don't think that's true. You know more than I mean, those are my two things that I've I've only had like two jobs in my life, and it's been like lawn care stuff and making pizzas. So I can do those two.

Zach 1:17:35

Those are two big life skills. They are, man. Gotta be able to make pizza.

Tim 1:17:39

They're huge. But um, but yeah, but I think we'll wrap it up here, Zachary, because it's getting dark and I'm sure you haven't even uh had dinner or anything.

Zach 1:17:50

But uh singing out, man. I appreciate you having me on.

Tim 1:17:53

No, I appreciate you coming out here. Next time we'll get you in with the guys, and we we need to rag on them for not being here because they stood us up. Yeah, I can't believe it, man. You should be. All right, Zachary. We'll talk to you soon. Thanks for having me.