#79 - Coffee with the Hausellis's...
In this episode, Tim and Nikki are joined by Daniel and Erica Hause for a relaxed morning conversation that starts with parenting and somehow ends with campground investments, vending machines, and travel bidets.
The group reflects on raising teenagers, learning when to be a parent versus a friend, and what happens when kids begin growing into independent adults. Daniel and Erica share stories about navigating life with a teenage driver, a soon-to-be high school freshman, and the strange realization that the house is getting quieter as the kids get older.
The conversation also dives into marriage, discussing how relationships evolve after years of raising children and why some couples discover a whole new phase of dating once the kids become more independent. Along the way, they share the story of how Daniel and Erica first met, the awkward beginnings of their relationship, and the journey that led to nearly two decades of marriage.
Of course, no Fairview Social episode would be complete without a few unexpected detours. The group swaps stories about campground culture, RV life, entrepreneurship, vending machines, business ideas, and Tim's growing obsession with bidets. By the end, it's less of an interview and more like sitting around the kitchen table with friends while the conversation goes wherever it wants.
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The host with the hauslist is the hausalistist. Coffee with the hazalis is you like that? We came up with that the other day. Hostilist's hazalises. Hazalis.
SPEAKER_04Where's the L coming?
TimHalas.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yes. Sorry.
SPEAKER_01I mean we're coffee.
SPEAKER_05There's nothing.
SPEAKER_01Or or or you could go Hazalis. Hazalis. The Hazalis. Coffee with the Hazalises. There you go.
SPEAKER_03I like that. Or just say coffee with the most epic people on the planet. There you go. That's even better. That's better.
unknownThat's better.
TimSo welcome to the show, Erica. This is your first time. Yes. And we're excited for you to be here. You're probably like the newest person we've had on in a while.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
TimWell, she, I mean, she's been beating down my door to come here, and I finally let her. I know. You should you should have let her years ago.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the first time this was mentioned, I said, yes, let's go. Erica needs to come on.
TimOh, I guess for sure.
SPEAKER_04Well, between all the kids and all their stuff, it's like insane. It's it's hard.
TimThere's a lot going on with you guys. It's funny because when we were texting the other day, Daniel sent a picture of like you and your son driving.
DanielIt was me and yeah, me and Mac driving, and then I sent the the text of you and uh you and Ruby at CMA.
TimLike I hadn't seen I hadn't seen either of them in so long. I mean, I've only really seen them in pictures anyway. And I was like, look how old Daniel's kids are. I know.
SPEAKER_03It happens overnight. He was telling me about this. He said something about your kids are older, and I was like, no, they're like, what, eight, twelve? Yeah. And he's like, no, one of them's dry. I was like, wait, what?
SPEAKER_04When did that happen? And Ruby's gonna be a freshman in high school. I'm like, no, I know. That's crazy. I know.
DanielSo we're we're navigating all that, which you guys have have done. Well, we did, but we did it with boys, so I don't know about the whole girl thing.
SPEAKER_04I would be worried about it. She's pretty level-headed, she's got a good shad on her.
TimThere you go. That that's yeah, she's pretty picky.
SPEAKER_04I told her she can be picky, so yeah, yeah, yeah. And she I think she's pretty good with it. She's seen her friends kind of get messed up with boys like a couple weeks ago. She's like, you know, this one boy said he liked me. And then I said, you know, I'm I'm not really interested. So the next and he was like, I love you, you know. And then the next day he's like telling Chesney, I love you. Oh my god. And I said, That's why you just don't waste your time on this, you know, just leave, let them be, and it'll come. It sounds like she's gonna need them though. She does. She does.
DanielWherever the needle points, the boy will go. Yes.
SPEAKER_04That's right. Yeah.
DanielThe boys love us.
TimLove every girl. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. Especially at that age. Yeah. Yeah. The hormones.
TimBut yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't really mind those days with the kids as much as I minded like them being really young.
DanielYeah. What like what do you say, like looking back on are you saying like that was a hard time for you?
TimNo, I just I think that like you think or that was a better time.
DanielYou like them more young than they are.
TimNo, I like it better when they're older because I always knew that when the kids were young, that like I would be a better parent to them when I'm older. Sure. Or when they're older than when they were younger. Of course, they probably think the opposite. I was probably better.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I think you're great the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. You disciplined them when they were younger. You were the authoritarian. And then when they got older, they realized you're kind of cool sometimes.
DanielYou're related.
SPEAKER_04I heard this thing by I think it was Dr. Laura, and she was like, if you want to be ki friends with your kids when they're older, you can't be friends with them now. Like you gotta establish your line and then um those boundaries, and then that's what grows a really healthy relationship, and they can look back and be like, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That closeness to you.
SPEAKER_03And we never really had problems out of our kids, you know. Yeah, Tim did a good job of establishing that authoritarian not authoritarian, but like authoritative like role in their lives. And so they they always stayed in line if no if for no other reason because we established some sort of fear of authority early in the world.
SPEAKER_04Yes, I would agree with that. Like let the man be the man because honestly, it's good to have that healthy fear because I'm kind of like a pushover. I was getting it was like a year ago. I was like getting on, it was like 10, 9:30 at night, and I was like getting stuff, and he's like, Where are you going? I said, Well, Mac wants to go get cookies for his girlfriend's family because a good family friend passed away, and he's like, No, he's like, It is bedtime and you need to just like no, say no. And I'm like, you know what, you're right. So I'm like, you know, because I think we still want to do for our kids like they were young, yeah, but they're not anymore. And so you can say no. But I'm thankful for Daniel to like you know, give back some respect, yeah, because they don't, I mean, they have respect for me. I'm got a different role, and so I do encourage like other moms, like, let the dad be the dad, let him be yeah, let him do that.
SPEAKER_03And that's one thing I love about my relationship with Tim and just how healthy relationships and marriages work. You help each other grow into a stronger version of yourself. So, like when Tim and I first met, I was totally a pushover, and Eli was on track to be a little bit wild. He was wild when Tim met us, and and Tim, you know, was very firm because he realized, hey, this kid doesn't have a dad in his life that's gonna do this for him, so I have to do it. So he did it, and it was hard for me to take at first. It was like the first time he punished him. I was like, what are you doing to my child, you know? And and it was hard. Yeah, sometimes I'm like, do you have to be that hard? But it's good. It worked and it worked. I mean, Eli straightened up and ended up being the most stand-up citizen ever, but also Tim has taught me to be a little bit more strict and not be the pushover that I used to be. So he's helped me kind of grow my own background backbone, which is awesome. I we shouldn't talk about Tim in a good light. He's gonna get a big head.
DanielWell, I think I think it in that same breath, I mean, uh as much as that we can be the authoritative figure in their life, I think there's a lot of times that we toe the line, and you're like, and you women are kind of like, hey, you know, maybe not so much or so harsh next time, or so, you know, I mean, not we're not gonna be perfect every time. I think Tim could attest to that again. Tim's definitely perfect, right? Very, very far from perfect.
SPEAKER_03But you're right, it's like it's teamwork, and there's push and pull, and you find that balance.
SPEAKER_04And I think letting men do that is so important. Yeah. Like over, I mean, okay. I'm a little anti-feminist. Like I think being too.
SPEAKER_03Me too, okay.
SPEAKER_04Like letting the roles letting the roles work the way they're supposed to. Like, because women can, I mean, I think if we pushed enough, we would be like, you're not gonna talk to my kid that way. Um but if we allow the process to work the way it's supposed to. Yeah, I think it's I agree a thousand percent.
SPEAKER_03Always knew I loved you. Yeah.
TimIt's it's not always like this, but like you can usually see that the kids are better rounded when when that does happen. Yeah, that's not always the case. Right, right. You know, there's you always see like some murderer out there that came from a great home or whatever. Of course, you never know what would happen.
SPEAKER_03My theory on that is nature versus nurture.
DanielWhat do you yeah, we can talk about it? I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Nature versus nurture, I know a little bit about that. It's never one or the other, it's always both. It's always a combination. But yeah, I think in those situations where it looks like this mass murderer came from this beautiful family, no, if you dig if you open the onion a little bit more, maybe the mom was a pushover, maybe the dad was too strict. Yeah, and it's like extreme versions, but on the surface to everybody else, they look great, but no, you have like an enabling situation that's behind closed doors, or you have you know an abusive situation behind closed doors, but nobody's ever gonna put that in front of the camera. No, no, so you won't ever see it. So I think the that coming from a perfect family is a lie.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, there is no perfect family.
SPEAKER_03That's right, that's right.
SPEAKER_04To lean into that, you know, and like accept that we're you know, broken people raising children who will also be broken. Yeah, in a broken world. I mean, yes. And that's our need for what's yeah.
TimWhat's fun now is that you know, that the kids are older, it's like you can have legitimate conversations with them. That's what I enjoy as opposed to I'll never forget. And this was actually, I don't know, I was probably 25 or 30 at the time when this happened, but then like I finally saw my dad in the light of like this guy's just a screwed up guy. He just happens to be my dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you start looking at him like that, then you can kind of have better conversation. I agree. I agree. Yeah, but that's what your kids are doing to you guys right now.
SPEAKER_04I know.
TimWe're in a it's we're not we're not grandparents just yet, yeah, like you guys. Yeah, we are it's awesome. I am a grampy.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, it's that would be a cycle stops.
TimThe cycle starts over, but it's more fun with you don't have to do like the hard stuff.
DanielIt's like you can do the fun stuff, you can give them back at the end of the day. Yeah, here you go. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Like, I think it's text it to you guys. Like, I can't, but I can wait for grandkids.
TimYeah, exactly. Yeah, and we were like that too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I actually said the same exact thing all the time. I was always like, I can't wait to be a grandmother, but I will.
DanielYeah, 100% right.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I think, yeah, looking back, you know, when they're younger, it's so it is so hard. And you, you know, on my screen will pop up these faces of these little babies, and I'm like, where was I? Like, I couldn't really enjoy that. And I even think, like, you know, why couldn't have I had kids like at 45? I think I would have been, you know, we all would have been better. Better, you know. So like, why did God like create it to where like you know nothing? You had these kids, but you had the energy to keep up with them, I guess, and take care of their needs.
DanielYeah, patience factor was very very thick thin, not very thin, but thinner than it was and it is now. Yeah. At 45 as opposed to what we were, 28 when we had that?
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah, somewhere in there. I don't even know.
Tim16 minus 44 shells is.
SPEAKER_03But I think also at any age, you're gonna go into it not really knowing, and there's a beautiful process of figuring it out. And those are trying times, but it's like, you know, you don't grow if you aren't if you aren't stretched. Right.
DanielSo were you guys the type of uh parents that were like reading books or like how-to parent books, or were you just kind of like winging it and just from memory of your parents raising you guys and and how full house raised you?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we didn't read books, no, and family matters maybe uh maybe a few Family Matters episodes. It was survival, it was survival mode, you know? It was like figuring it out day to day. Maybe the same way, and you know, it's like books are okay, but it's like what works for one family isn't gonna work for another family. And every child is so different. You guys know this. Yes, you can't discipline them all. Yes, yeah. It it's it's different.
TimIt's this dysfunctional, dysfunctional family. But I think that like what you just said, in in joking of watching Family Matters or Full House, like you have that expectation that like, oh, it's gonna be like this. Yeah, and you are gonna have the sit down on the bed at the end of the episode and the music come on and like have the learn the little lesson of the episode, which it happens like that, but it's usually messier.
SPEAKER_04Yes, much messier, yeah. Like much messier. Yeah, I have a little bit of a disadvantage. I do hair, and so I have these clients who've lived these experiences, and so instead of reading a book, I'm talking about it, maybe like you're like listening to like what their stories are, and then I'm like, oh yeah, I remember this with you know Allie.
TimAnd well, that's good. That would be good too, because then you can learn from like, well, better not do that. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_04And they would be, you know, and you know, they they're looking back and saying, Yeah, definitely don't do that. Do this, yeah. Or at least think about doing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Just those conversations of yeah.
SPEAKER_03I've always had a philosophy of life is too short to make all the mistakes yourself, so you gotta learn from other people's too. That's a great saying.
DanielI don't think I've ever heard it. Totally is.
SPEAKER_03That's because it's my original one. Oh, isn't it really? No, my original philosophy. I've been saying it for over a decade at least.
TimWhat did you say? I was busy getting Frank untangled from my cords. I like Frank. Does Frank need to sit in my lap? He can if he's if he wants to put him up there for you.
SPEAKER_03I'd love to be on the podcast.
unknownCome on.
TimHe barks at you like he's going nuts, like you're an intruder, and then he loves you. Yeah, yeah. So he's not doing very good.
SPEAKER_03That's how a good dog's supposed to be.
TimAll right, Frank. Anyway, what did you say?
SPEAKER_03My philosophy was life is too short to make all the mistakes yourself, so you have to learn from other people's mistakes as well.
DanielYeah, this is the first time I've got to be. I mean, I in all honesty, I think you know I could probably exit the show and then all I'm just fine. We got it.
SPEAKER_04We got it. Hey, guys.
DanielWe'll just we'll just I mean, we're kind of just maybe eye candy for the audience.
TimI would just be looking more of like the these kind of things.
SPEAKER_05Hey, whoa!
TimThat's hilarious. And they're like all four.
DanielThat's uh that's a that's a sound bite from Mike. Mike, okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Say what sounds like Mike now that you say that, yes.
DanielThat's good.
SPEAKER_03But we still need the dove calls. Daniel's dove calls.
DanielWe can work on that. We can work on that. We can talk about that. We can segue into Daisy the Dove later if we want, but yeah, we could. Uh, but speaking of kids and all that, like you guys have been going on some camping trips lately.
TimWe have we have, we've done two. So for you and the audience, like they they the audience knows a little bit that we were doing this remodel here, so we bought the camper, and so we're gonna have to live in that, you know, for a few months or whatever until they're done with the house. So we're like, oh, we have a camper, let's go camping.
DanielAre you officially in there now?
SPEAKER_03No, no, no. We've gone out on a few weekends, and then anytime that they're working on the house, you know, I'm the only one here during the day, so I'll go in there. Me and Frank.
TimDo some computer stuff, yeah, work, whatever. We'll show you the progress of it when we're done. But yeah, so the idea was like, oh, we're just gonna live in this, and then we're like, well, we have a camper, let's let's use it. Let's go. Let's become campers. Glam glampers. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03We are glampers. We are not glampers.
TimI'm the same way. I'm the same way.
SPEAKER_04It's always a great thought, and then you're like, this is a lot of work.
SPEAKER_03When you get, you know, past 30s or and beyond, sleeping on the ground doesn't your body doesn't take it very well.
TimYeah. So we get the camper and we take it. We've taken it a few weeks ago after we got it. We went to a campsite out west uh past Hickman County.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
TimWe stayed there for a couple days, and then last weekend we went to, it's actually like literally five minutes from our Clarksville office. We went out there.
DanielBut is it like wide open? Like like there's trees, like is you as do you feel like I know granite you're in slips with other like RVs and stuff, but does it still feel kind of like you're out in the woods, so to speak?
TimThe pla the first place we went for sure felt like we were out in the middle of nowhere. It's called Crooked Creek, and it was like right off the Tennessee River. Yeah, it's right off the Tennessee River, and then it's like backwoods.
SPEAKER_03There's like backwoods marina and stuff, and it was very cool. They had this little shack that's like you can go get beer or worms.
DanielDid you send that did you send that pinpoint to Mike Riley? Because he wants he wants to do that for his retirement. And we need to run a fishing shack with hot dogs and the bait and tackle Mike and all of his retirement plans.
SPEAKER_03It was really cool because the front you could drive up to it, you know, from the campground side, or you could boat up to it from the river side. And the back side was like on the water. So where was this? This was like a little over an hour away if you're on the interstate. But you take the highway um west.
TimIt was west. Yeah, like if you go past, like if you're going towards Memphis, like towards Jackson. Yeah, probably an hour before Jackson, right? A couple hours an hour before Jackson. But it was it was like out there, it was like out there in the middle of nowhere. Now, this one we went to last weekend, it was like we kind of like that because we were we're not campers, we're glampers. Yeah, and the fact that like I'm like it's like a neighborhood almost. Well, I'm like watching the GPS and I'm just like, all right, well, here's our here's our Clarksville office, and then like saying like we're four minutes away. I'm like, that ain't camping, that's in the city. Yeah, and then you turn off the main road and you go like a quarter of a mile back, it kind of feels like you're surrounded by trees, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03We still got Walmart.
TimBut that's what we said. We literally like hey, if if something happened, we got Walmart right here. We need an extra rack of ribs run to Walmart.
SPEAKER_04Right here.
TimYeah, if you run out of anything, it's like right there. So that was fun. That's awesome.
DanielWe have uh so all right. I remember you sent in the picture, and I don't know if we want to talk about it yet, or we want to save it for for two S L.
TimWell, me and Justin talked about it already. Dang it. I haven't listened to the podcast. He's talking about I know Daniel doesn't listen to the podcast.
SPEAKER_03Duck and Tater.
TimSo I'll just give the brief uh the brief the brief uh description of it. So when we pull into this place, like I'm trying to learn how to camp. I'm trying to learn how to do all this stuff. I don't I keep talking, I'm gonna pull up a picture of them to show show Erica. So we go to this first place, and um, you know, there's not supposed to be anybody there, but it's like packed. But that's what what we learned.
SPEAKER_04I did see this on um like a clip. Yeah, okay, yes. But it's like that was the You're like trying to like ease into this, and then everybody's watching you. Oh, this is hysterical.
TimYeah, that's that was that's the first one.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so he looks like he's gonna help you out in the meeting.
SPEAKER_03He's very friendly, very talkative. Oh, hysterical.
TimBut but it's like I'm trying to figure it out. I'm one of those kind of people that are like, I don't want people watching me because I feel dumb.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
TimAnd it's like, I think now like we've been out twice, and I kind of understand. And that's when I learned that there's like three different types of campers. There's like the us that's like, hey, novice. Yeah, well, not just like, and every now and then, hey, let's go camping, let's go do that. And then you have like the people which I would put my grandfather in. He had a he had a camper and he had it like at a place and then he would drive to it on the weekend.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay. You know, you can't do it. They just leave it there? Yeah, they leave it there.
TimThey rent the space and they leave it there.
SPEAKER_04Like all on a beach year or summer or just seasonal year.
TimThey leave it there and then they just drive to it when they want. Okay. And then the third type of camper is these campers here, which they live in their camp. Full time. Okay. But they did tell us that they pay $250 a month for that. And I'm just like, all right, so if everything goes all goes to hell, then that would be a good thing.
SPEAKER_03It includes water, electric, and sewage. Wow. Yes.
TimMy water and electric bill.
DanielI know. No wonder people do that.
SPEAKER_04I know we're not your house in the city for you know a year. I know. You're not gonna raise the city. Our neighbors are paying something crazy.
DanielUnless they raise the whole campground and they have to do that.
TimWe were paying, we were paying $30 a day there. Yeah, what they charged us.
SPEAKER_03Like a weekend thing.
TimBut then we got to talking to old Duck.
SPEAKER_03What was his name?
TimDuck. For real. Well, I've been talking about it.
SPEAKER_03He said, he said they call me Duck because I grew up on the Duck River and I've been fishing since I was five.
TimOh, I love it. There's 20-pound catfish right here. Right here, right under your feet.
SPEAKER_03It's like watch out for them alligator guars. They ain't friendly. Oh my god.
TimWe were just like we're we are where we're supposed to be. This is our kind of focus. That's awesome. But like, so what I was gonna say is they told Nikki that, like, oh yeah, just pull in any of them. It's pretty much open. So in my mind, I'm like, good, there's nobody there. I'm gonna back this thing in. I'm gonna do all the things, I'm gonna figure this out, and I won't have people watching me. And then we like turn the corner and it's like packed with that third group of campers, like just the people that live there. You know what?
SPEAKER_04That is their entertainment. That is their entertainment. You did them a favor. You gave them something to talk about before I told them a week.
SPEAKER_01Grab a chair! I'm literally gone.
TimI look like what you're picturing is exactly what happened. We pull in and we're like, I'm like looking at the section, I'm like, and some lady, big old big mama comes up, what you doing, huh? I was like, uh, I think we're in spot 21. It's just like I it's Bill and Nancy's, they're in Bill and Nancy's spot. Do Bill and Nancy know about this? So we pull in and everything, and they're like the those people are like literally, there's like what, six of them sitting around their table under their awning, under their camper, drinking beer, watching.
DanielThey were like, you know what y'all should have done? You should have said, well, ironically enough, my name's Bill and she's Nancy too.
unknownYeah.
TimWell, that was like the exact thing that I did not want is like that. That's what I had in my head. I'm like, everybody watching you. At least it won't be a bunch of rednecks in another.
SPEAKER_04What I'm doing. Yeah. Yeah.
TimThat is hilarious. But the next one So how did it go?
SPEAKER_04Did you were you able to like pretty smooth?
TimI did it all, and it's like I I've it that was like an exploratory mission of like figuring out how to hook up the sewage. Sure. Like, you know, seeing what all the camper does, how to deal with the tanks and all that kind of stuff, which which I learned all that. Is it is a sewage a messy process? It's not messy at all. It's very clean. Very good. Because like they all like like she said, there's like sewer hookups there. Sure, sure.
DanielSo all you can do is know if like you know, like the nozzle part might be kind of I know you have gloves and stuff like that.
TimYeah, I was gonna say, I re I read, you know, I did I've watched some YouTube videos. I wear, I would hope, just in case something sprays. Well, nothing does because it like hooks into the side of the camper, and then like you just pull the thing and it's like goes and you watch it, and you're just like, there goes all your poop.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
TimOh, did you uh did you install the day?
DanielI did.
SPEAKER_04Hey did the bidet!
DanielCut down on the toilet paper used. I thought that was a great idea. So this it is magical.
TimThis is why we glamp, not camp. This is what happened on the second. We don't have any over there. Gosh. You can have some on my TV. We had a we had a bit of an event yesterday.
DanielWe had an event yesterday. I was thinking we were I was uh telling E that when we came up. It's like I guess they are I'm surprised they're even having us over. They must be still recovering potentially. Maybe it's could be a possibility.
SPEAKER_04You're like, whose idea was this in New York?
TimSo the second one.
SPEAKER_03Well, yesterday wasn't planned. It just kind of happened. Oh, that's they're the best kind. Yeah.
TimSo the trip yet the trip the last weekend, we um well, we had this issue of like I learned my lesson with the toilet paper. I'm like, oh, this is fine. No, we it's it clogged it all up. Oh, really? So what did you do?
SPEAKER_04Have to get it.
TimNo, I did I bought some. So when we were at the campsite, we left Sunday to come back home and you know, Amazon, because we're bougie, you know, wanting everything overnight. Like it literally came, it was here by the time we had gotten home, and it's like this container of stuff you poured in and it like dissolves it all.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay.
TimBut the reason I'm telling you that is because like I bought the bidet um before the first trip, but it didn't come in in time. And so, you know, you're just going to town using the bathroom and everything, and then I didn't put it on before the second trip. And then after I we like we, I say we eye clogged up the toilet. After I clogged up the toilet, I was like, I need to put that bidet on. Yeah. And so I went out there this past week and put it on and I tested it, and it didn't like I couldn't get it on. It was wasn't the right one. And it says on the box fits virtually all RV toilets, keyword accessories.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, except it doesn't really fit any of them, right?
TimYeah, so I found the right one and got it and installed it. I haven't used it yet, but I turned it on and let it spray my hand on it. I was like, oh yeah, that's gone.
SPEAKER_03But also, learning experience, we found out there's RV safe toilet paper, so we ordered some of that instead of using the regular stuff because it dissolves better and all that.
DanielYou can't imagine what RV safe toilet paper even feels or looks like.
TimWell, you know that it's like probably like if you go back there to wipe, it's like dissolve butter. That's my like bidet all the way on that. Yeah, dry, pat dry, one done. But we got that thing installed, so next time we go out, like there'll be some butt washing going on.
SPEAKER_04Tina loves the bidet so much, he wants to pack it up in our suitcases and take it to the beach.
DanielI mean, like every time I go to the beach, I always start looking for travel bidets. Well, you know what?
SPEAKER_03I mean, he loves I know it's Tim T.
TimYou know what's funny is yesterday we were out here with her family. They were swimming and we were having some drinks and hanging out, and the bidet conversation came up, and like everybody's making fun of me for it.
DanielNo, no, it is it is never talking about and I'll and I will attest to this because our neighbors in Hickory got one, and it took me a it took me a while to use it because you know, you're like, this is somebody else's kind of like yeah, remnants, finger, you know, it kind of comes down and squirts, but it was up in the guest bathroom, and I was like, you know, I don't know how often they come up here or whatever. Anyways, I just screw it, I'm gonna try it. And I and it did it, and it was it was life-changing. Because and this may be too much information, but I'm gonna let my I want to let my listeners know his followers. Preach it, man. Preach it. That if you've ever seen that that uh what's the show Parks and Wreck, you know, where uh the outtake where Chris O'Donnell, not Chris O'Donnell, but what's the guy's name that the uh I've never seen it. Okay, well he's gonna be.
TimI'm gonna stop you right there. I don't know what you're talking about.
DanielOkay, well either way, he he it's an outtake, and he's he's basically doing these like, you know, you just keep wiping and just keep wiping and wiping and wiping and nothing ever goes away. Just for hundreds and hundreds of times, it seems like. But ever since the bidet, no, it never, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, I would have to take a shower sometimes. This is this is what I told them in the past. I don't know what you're doing.
TimI mean, I was not taking two or two or three showers a day just to get my just to get clean. When they were when they were laughing at me yesterday about this, this was my mom, a couple of aunts, and my sister. When they were scoffing at me about this, I said, Look, here's a situation, and you'll relate to this. Say you get up in the morning and you go and you use a bathroom, and then you're like, Oh, I'm gonna get in the shower. You get in the shower, and then as soon as you get out, you're like, Oh, my tongue hurts. Yes, thank you. I gotta use the bathroom again. And then you can then you use the bathroom again, and then you're like, man, I gotta get back in the shower. No, not with a bidet.
DanielAgreed, agreed. Eric is like, what do I need? A bidet. And then I don't have anything in my toilet paper. I'm like, I'm like playing with playthrough down there. Playing with playthrough.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I think they need their stomachs checked. Yeah, well, Daniel just had his colonoscopy. We are like a book.
TimWe are free and clear. Free and clear.
SPEAKER_04I mean, this guy will make up all kinds of stories and just out.
TimYeah. But the bidet is life-changing. It's like you just like it's ever life-changing.
SPEAKER_04And I will I want he wants, I think there, I think you looked it up. There are traveling.
DanielThere are traveling, but I don't know how good that Daniel. But the reason you sent me a time is like, I'd rather go back home to stay at the beach too. The reason I don't want a bidet. And this is maybe too much TMI too, but I don't know if I should even say it on the on air home.
SPEAKER_03Going to it's on the internet. The internet now. You're helping people.
TimWell, the the it's a removable shower head, so you can kind of position it to where you need to position it. Well, even if you bought a bidet that you would have anyway, because you can get a cheap one for like 20 bucks or something on Amazon. And take if you're gonna be somewhere for a week.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, leave it. Peace of mind.
TimWhy not? Why not just put it on while you're there?
DanielI know. I mean, because you do have to drain the back of the toilet with the with the water, unhook the hose, drain the hose. I know it's I know it takes 15 minutes, but like, yeah, it's still kind of whatever.
SPEAKER_04Maybe I can get you that for Father's Day.
DanielThe traveling bidet? Yeah, it's gotta be a good one. Maybe like a battery operated.
SPEAKER_04I hear that there's like heated ones. Oh yeah. No, like all the there's like toilets that are made of it, and they do the Asian, the Asian market.
TimI think they take their let me give you a let me give you a little insight that I learned last weekend on the camping trip when I stopped the toilet up, is that see, it has heat heated water on demand. So you push a button and it's like, you know, because there's not like a water heater, it's like one of those that you push the button on it, and when you turn the water on, it gets hot.
DanielYeah.
TimSo like if you're taking a shower or something, well, what I noticed, because it's a camper and all the water is like one source, is like I was noticing when I was sitting on the toilet, I'm like, man, my getting a little hot. But then I started thinking about it. I'm like, now that I have this bidet in, I might get to know what it feels like to get to have the expensive bidet. Warms warms your butt.
DanielI kind of like the cold water personally. I'm gonna wake up cold water.
SPEAKER_04You like that? You guys are wild.
SPEAKER_01We are wild and crazy.
SPEAKER_03It's funny because, like, I don't know if this is a normal thing, but I think in our relationship, he's the more bougie one. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Daniel's a prima donna, sure.
DanielI mean, he likes to have everything.
TimSo here's what I like.
SPEAKER_04It's good, and then you do, you keep me so organized. If it wasn't for you, it would be chaos.
TimAs you're living life and you're going along in your life, and then you do something, and you're like, hey, this works, or hey, this is a good thing, then you just continue to do it, and those compound over time. You're like, I'm gonna do this like this, and this like this, and then you call me bougie.
SPEAKER_03You are bougie. That's all right. There's nothing wrong with you. Look at this, look at this. He likes the nicer thing. He likes the nicer things. He was the one who taught me that you don't buy off-brand coke or Mountain Dew, and you don't buy off-brand coffee, but there's other things you can buy off-brand.
TimYou don't want no mountain lightning. I ain't Mountain Dew. No, no, I agree.
SPEAKER_03But before marrying him, like I didn't know the difference. I would taste one, taste the other. I didn't know the difference because like I was used to the cheap stuff.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah. Yeah.
DanielR.C. cola? No. No.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's like drinking that. I did too.
TimThat was my dad's drink of choice, is RC Cola and versus peanut butter.
SPEAKER_04I never knew it was like an off-brand until just right. Right, exactly. Because it was an off-brand of what? Pepsi?
unknownI don't know.
DanielIt was its own RC cola.
SPEAKER_04I don't know.
SPEAKER_03It must have been cheap because we always had it. Yeah, it was cheap. It's like something that you bought at like sand.
TimBut I will I will say that like you're right, I'd like to have the better things, but if I couldn't afford to have the better things, then I wouldn't have them. So that encourages myself to be like, hey, I need to make more money. Hey, I need to do all that. You want this house renovation done. We gotta we gotta figure this out.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. Typically, if he wants something, he'll find a way to get it.
DanielYes, I'll find that's what I'm gonna do. He'll find a way to afford it. Yeah, yeah. You're not just gonna go into debt for it. You're gonna figure it out. No, no. I agree. That's fine. Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's stupid.
TimWhich is why we that is stupid, which is why we started our vending machine business. Yeah, I think that's great. That's really cool. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Daniel's been telling me about it.
DanielI wonder I I mean, on the the the the topic of of uh businesses and owning businesses and buying businesses and the turnover of you know the the baby boomers kind of selling businesses. Back when I was on Instagram, uh they said the very lucrative business was the campgrounds, potentially. Oh yeah. I just literally read it. I just literally read on that on that stream of constant stream of revenue. I mean, and especially if you have all these retirees and like and granted, you know, half of them might be living there full time. That's insane, you know.
TimYeah, you buy you buy the land and then you just whatever the only money you're spending is the sewage, yeah and stall the living.
SPEAKER_04That's it.
DanielI mean it goes it goes to the fact of like, you know, the vending machines or like even owning like the ice machines. It's kind of like the set it and forget it type of mentality. Granted, you can't set a vending, you have to, you know, maintain it, maintain it and put product in there and that's it.
TimBut it's unattended retail.
DanielExactly. And you don't have to have somebody there full-time, you know, paying them an hourly wage to monitor or make those transactions or or whatever the case may be. And that's where I was like, you know, we've always talked about it, you know, mailbox income. Where the hell? How can I have, you know, besides owning stocks or you know, that type of portfolio or whatnot, but like a truly like but a campground, wouldn't you have to maintain, you would have to have staff.
TimWell, the thing is, is the two places that we went uh camping, they were that that it was somebody it was somebody's land and they put these things on there. But if you think about it, like at that first campsite we went to, there was probably about 30 spots, and I would say that 25 of them are full. And if they're paying 250 a month for all of those, you know, just say that it was twenty-five, it's like that's a that's a ton of that's a ton of money that they're getting there. Five grand a month.
SPEAKER_03And the only maintenance is really just like mowing, yeah, occasional septic clean out.
TimI mean well over there since it was on the it was on that creek that goes into the Tennessee River, uh there's like six six six thousand two hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah, sixty two hundred bucks a month of just income that they're getting. But like a the the one that we went to last weekend, yes, all of those things because it's there wasn't like the docks for you know the thing.
DanielI would I would think the only biggest line item outside of Sioux is electrical or whatever, and and that's depending on the lay of the land, is is is does grass have to be mowed, anything like that, or if it's like truly in the woods where you don't have to do anything and and you know you're you're slipped surrounded by you know 30-year-old trees, and there's not no grass or weeds growing, or it's just kind of a natural area.
TimBut the thing is, is that one that we went to in Clarksville was like literally probably not even more than five acres. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't huge.
SPEAKER_03But they did, they did, I think it was like the husband and wife run it because the wife had to leave early, so the husband checked us in. But that one had a 24-hour laundry room where people could do laundry, and they had a 24-hour shower room. So there's probably some maintenance with those things. Yeah, yeah. But that's nice.
DanielYeah.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's a good idea.
unknownYeah.
DanielEvery campground you stay at, they stay full.
TimI'm gonna take 10% off the top for that, thanks. If we if we put it, if we put it over there.
SPEAKER_04Did you have to pay for the laundry, or that was just an added no part of your we didn't do it, yeah. I'm not sure.
TimBut it's nice, like if because the people that were there that we did talk to at that campground, they're like literally just people passing through. Like the people right next to us were like, hey, we're Runaway West Virginia or yeah, or whatever. Yeah, and so that would be a nice feature to be able to stop and do some clothes. For real.
SPEAKER_03I just I just wrote your idea down by the way. Yeah, go for it. 10% off the top. We'll send you a gift basket.
TimTake it. We'll send you a gift basket. Hey, thanks, Daniel. Here's you a gift basket with some pretzel. With a note that says a reoccurring amount every month.
DanielReoccurring amount every month basket.
TimWhere's my reoccurring amount? Where's my commission on that? That's fine. But yeah, that's that's kind of that's where we're at with like the vending machine stuff is just like setting ourselves up for the future. Yeah. Because I kind of had this realization, I think I was actually here on this podcast. I'm just like, you know what? I think I was talking to Mike and I was like, tired of like working for someone else to to for them to be successful. Well, what about me? Yeah, I agree. I can be successful to a certain point, but like I need to take my life into my own hands and do this additional stuff. Now, can I leave work right now? No. Will I leave work? Probably not, but if this thing grows, then possibly, you know. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Part of the goal is for me to never have to have a regular job again. Because I really like not working. I really like not working.
DanielThat's funny you say that because that was my goal too.
SPEAKER_04Wait a minute.
TimBut it is, but it is nice for her to be at home and to be able to go like looking at the.
DanielAs an anti-feminist, you want to work for the rest of your life.
SPEAKER_03That's not exactly what that was.
TimYou do want to work for the rest of your life, just kidding. But being able to go like work for yourself in that in that capacity to be able to be like, all right, well, I'm gonna go up here and take 30 minutes to stock a machine and to go do all that, and then you got the rest of the week, and then you just sit there and watch yourself make money. We weren't doing too good at first, but we're doing a lot better now. That's in the hospital.
SPEAKER_04I tell you where y'all need to get in on, but they might already have a system, all of these crazy um sports complexes for these children, soccer fields.
TimYou know what? Armando told me that. Oh my god. I'm gonna write that one down too.
DanielYeah, the question is is uh do they have to be inside or can they handle the heat the temperature? They need to be inside and put them outside. So that's that's the caveat with that.
SPEAKER_03There's because they're AI with cameras, there's sensitive equipment stuff.
TimWell, and just the humidity getting all in the compressors and all that.
DanielThat might not that might not work, but but if they do an indoor, if you did if you did one at I just don't know like well how much they depend on like concessions that that you know, I imagine that's a whole nother obviously revenue stream that like that that they count on for you know putting money back into the system or whatever the case may be. And if they put an AI vending machine that may I don't think it would cut down terribly too much on their their stuff, but it might be good for like during practices and stuff like that. During those time periods, but maybe not necessarily during or if nobody wants to sit in line, they can go to the vending machine and buy a Gatorade or a Coke or a Snickers bar as opposed to buying a pizza or a hot dog or whatever the case.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I was at a my nephew's baseball game like maybe a month ago, and I asked my niece, like, hey, will you run up at the concession stand and see if they have this or that? And she came back and she was like, No, they don't have any of that. I was like, vending machine would affect it.
TimYeah. Well, we'll see what happens with it, but yes, we've talked about this a lot trying to figure out some kind of mailbox check. This is probably the closest thing that I'm gonna be able to do to a mailbox check, but honestly, we're only really able to do it because she's not working.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and so you are the supply you go and stop it and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
TimWell, we only really have one that accounts. We got other one we I got two more that are at at work.
SPEAKER_03So he handles those. Yeah, and I do the one in the hospital. But we have a lead on another one that's probably gonna pop up here this week. Yeah, that is great.
DanielThat's awesome. So we're gonna remove one from work and take it to the battery. Yeah, there's no reason not to. Yeah, no reason not to. That's what we're gonna do. Doug probably wouldn't even know.
TimProbably well, he doesn't care.
DanielWell, that's what I'm saying. Like he wouldn't, like he wouldn't know the difference if it was there or not. I mean he doesn't care. Not in a bad, I'm not saying that's in a bad in a bad way. It was just, yeah, yeah.
TimSo that's what we're gonna do this week. That's also that that happens.
SPEAKER_04That's exciting. Yeah, it's really fun. It's fun, it's fun to dream and do and see things come.
TimWell, it's like you just think together. You think about things and you're just like, I can do whatever I want. You know? Like we can do whatever we want. And the fact that if we are in uh I'm not saying that we're in like dead end jobs or anything like that, but if you feel if you feel like that, any person feels like that, well, you can change that. Yeah, I agree. You can you can as long as you work hard. That's the only caveat to it, is you have to work hard for it.
SPEAKER_04And just start out hard, and then it serves itself, and then uh yeah, yeah.
DanielI think too, uh the it's one thing to think think of an idea, but it's actually going through to going through with it. Yeah, those are those are the hardest things to do. I think I mean I've been an idea person all the time, but it's like how do I get how do I get there? Like how do I get into the middle?
TimThat's what I was gonna say is that like for most of our marriage for over 20 years, it's just been like, okay, well, here's my job and here's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, and so, and then be like, I want more to life than this. Well, that's on me. I'm just now learning like, hey, I can do whatever I want. Yeah, I'm a grown-up.
SPEAKER_03You've always been an idea, he's always been the idea person, he's always had an entrepreneur mindset, you know. Um, but it's like this is something that wasn't too hard to get into because yeah, there's some finance up front of like purchasing the machines because we are not doing debt, we're paying cash. But um it was like, you know, it's a low overhead business to start, which is why we thought, okay, we can try this, and if it fails, then we're not out too much. Yeah, but if it's successful, we let it grow.
TimBut you make it successful. That's what's nice about it, is like what you put in is Yeah, you gotta put your Mike Riley sales pants on and go and find it.
DanielAnd I think too, I think once you make the decision, like, hey, it's like you hit purchase on the machines, it's like well then I now I know I'm in the game. Let's let's let's make this let's do this.
TimYeah.
DanielLike I think I think the hardest part is pushing like that button or like all right, but once you're I think you get into that mentality, I feel like it may be easier to be like, all right, yeah, all right, I guess here we go. Let's let's let's make it work as best we can or whatever the case may be.
TimSo yeah, I just want to do something with I I mean, I've said this on this podcast before. There's no intention of like trying to be a big podcast. This is like a hobby, you know, just sitting around not doing anything all the time, and Daniel's a big part of it, and Mike and my brother and all that, but like this is like taking the bull by the horns and trying to create some sort of legacy because you start thinking about that stuff, especially when the kids are older. Now that they're older and they're all self-sufficient and taking care of themselves, but it's like what am I doing to have some kind of legacy for them?
SPEAKER_04I think that's neat.
TimThat's why we started Holliswood LLC. That's our Holliswood.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Yeah, to give her the backstory at Holliswood. Yeah.
TimSo Holliswood is um an old friend of ours, Bert. He was on, I think he was the second person on the show.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think he was.
TimHe's this big bald guy. We used to live next door to him. Like he live he lived like here in the front, and we lived kind of behind him. And so he'd come out on his back porch and he'd he'd be like peeing off his porch or something, and be like, Holliswood.
SPEAKER_04Oh, like Hollywood? Yeah, okay, yeah.
TimHe'd come over and what are you doing? Holliswood. Oh, that's hysterical. So that's fun. Yeah, we're building our Holliswood brand. Yeah, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_04I like it.
SPEAKER_03All thanks to Bert Hester. Shout out, Bert.
TimEvery time I every time, like even when I see the Holliswood studio sign or anything, Holliswood, I'm just like, Holliswood. Hollywood. Get you a beer, Holliswood. That's funny. So fun. That's awesome. So that's the that's our brand that we're building here.
SPEAKER_04I like it. That's neat.
TimHoslow. Wood. I don't know. Basketball. Hosless Wood. Hosless Wood. Hosless Wood.
SPEAKER_03Well, and our kids have already taken on that brand too, because our son Hayden in New York, he started Holliswood Productions. And that's like where all his writing and films and plays and all that are fall under that.
TimDo businesses. Yeah. That's awesome. So we have Holliswood LLC as our business name. And then we have DBAs for Holliswood Vending, the Fairy Social Podcast, and Holliswood Productions. That's cool. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's kind of goofy, but like but I want it to like, hey, maybe it can be something. Yeah, you never know. That's awesome, dude. That's so cool.
SPEAKER_04It is.
TimSo what else is going on with you guys?
DanielWe nothing. We just we wrapped up the sports season, and that's kind of like you know, coming to a halt finally, thank God. Thank goodness.
SPEAKER_04Only to start up in July.
DanielIn July. So the month of June is kind of like our little We just don't do anything. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I mean, Mac is still doing football.
DanielYeah, stuff like that, like workouts, but like we're not like committed to like going to games and tournaments and are the kids happy to be out of school for the summer.
TimOh, yeah. Oh yeah. God, yeah.
SPEAKER_04When people ask me, like, what are the kids doing for the summer? And I'm like, nothing. And then and that's how it should be. You know, like they did a couple camps. Bo did 4-H camp last week and down in Columbia and had the best time. And yeah. And then Ruby's going to church camp this coming week.
DanielAnd then Mac's just working. He works at Rack Room Shoes in the Mall. That's cool. He's trying to get on. He wants to get a job at a he applied a West Haven country club. So like to be, you know, clean carts and golf clubs and whatever. I don't like know what they do out there. I think he'd prefer to be outside. Yeah. You know, as we were younger, I don't want to be stuck behind a desk. I want to be out there.
TimI kind of miss that feeling. I kind of miss that feeling of this was the first year that like we haven't had the uh oh it's oh the boys at home for the summer.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. You know, it's like that feeling morning.
TimLike the week before the week before it's like the kids are excited, you know, there's like excitement of like about to be out of school.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well, I mean, Jack's the only one left at the house. I mean, Eli and Hayden have been out for years. So I know, but Jack just But Jack graduated a year ago, so that was like the last time. But he did take last summer.
TimDidn't he take last summer off before he started getting a job, or did he no, he I mean he was well he had a job right away before like literally three days after he graduated, he started working with us.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
TimSo but yeah, it's um yeah, I'm just thinking back then, even when I was 16, you know, pragmatic, like getting a job and a summer job and doing all that.
DanielI mean, I feel like even with Ruby going into to freshman year, she's been kind of paling around with some other you know, neighbor girls that you know it's kind of weird, you know, how like you know, they're little they're they're a year and two older than she is. So when they exited middle school and went to high school, it was kind of a break. They weren't really, I guess, really hanging out with each other.
SPEAKER_04And then it's funny how you know she now she's officially in high school, so we can hang hang out again. Yeah, I don't think it was intentional. That's probably just the way things go.
DanielYeah, I'm not I'm I'm just saying from my perspective, that's just what because obviously you're in high school, you're not gonna hang out with a middle schooler, right? That's right, that's just what it is, right? It's a rule. It's a different, it's a different life.
SPEAKER_04You can't be not cool in high school. I mean defending regardless of your coolness.
DanielIt seems like she's this whole beginning of the summer, she's really been absent. Like she's gonna go work out with these girls and she's gonna go to the pool and like becoming this little you know high school woman, you know, like carried a worried about her. She's always been worried about her her appearance, but like I've never seen her go.
SPEAKER_04She's just playing like her health and her wellness, like she's also getting older, and then she's coming in, and then she'll change, and then she'll be and she's gone like the whole day.
DanielAnd then, of course, I'm used to Mac being gone because he's either working or football or seeing his girlfriend or or whatever. And then I'm like, man, I'm like looking at Eric, and it's like me, her, and Bo like sitting on the couch. Like, what do you guys want to do? Like, what do you want to have for dinner?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, the uh years out.
DanielIt's kind of like seeing the beginning of the end because I'm like, because once Mac's gone, and then you know, Ruby's gonna be a junior at that time in high school, and then how old is Bo? Bo is 12. Well, he'll be he'll be 12 in June. June. June, June 10th. Wednesday. Next next week. Okay. So, you know, and he'll be in sixth grade. So it's like two more, two or three more years of him, and then he's gonna be kind of like where Ruby's at, like probably out paling around, like I remember that stuff to do.
TimI remember that time of our lives with our boys, like where Hayden and Eli were kind of gone out, and then we we had a few years where it's just like us and Jack. Yeah.
DanielDid and I've heard this, and I don't and you guys can I don't know if it's happened to you guys, but it's almost like you have to, and I don't, I don't hopefully you have a good enough relationship where you're not having to relearn how to date your spouse again or kind of like reconnect where you, you know, but it was that hard once the kids left and you guys were like looking at each other and we're like, so you know, we got married like right after we met, you know, and we already had a family because I already had an Eli.
SPEAKER_03So we were kind of just really rapidly put into a family environment where we never really had opportunity to date when we were younger. Yeah, yeah. It was just like we were in survival mode. Well, I was definitely in survival mode being a single mom, and then Tim comes along and like becomes like this major wonderful force in my life to kind of pick me up almost off the streets, you know. And and so we we got into that, and then it was just all this adjustment with like, okay, there's another man trying to discipline my child, and you know, all that stuff. So the beginning was really kind of sketchy and hard, and we had a lot to figure out. Um, but there was never an opportunity really to start just dating and enjoying each other and all that stuff, and um so as soon as the older two started being gone, and and it was just like Jack was like maybe a sophomore getting more independent, it was just so easy and wonderful for us to start dating each other, kind of for the first time ever. I mean, we'd gone on dates before for anniversaries, but not like all the time, and it was always just like dinner or something. Um but man, the last few years have been incredible. We've gone on so many just outside of the box dates, and it's like we're enjoying each other on a level we've never been able to do before. Yeah. And I've just been having a ton of fun with that. That's so fun.
TimWell, it's kind of like I guess backwards from a traditional, like, I don't know, when you guys were were dating and then got married, how long was it before you had kids?
DanielUh, we got married in August and we were pregnant by April. But we dated.
SPEAKER_04But how long did you dated for each two years engaged one year?
SPEAKER_03Okay. Yeah. We were married nine months after we met. Wow. After we met. So that's after we started dating, it was like maybe six months.
DanielAmerica asked me to marry her, and I was like, no, I'm not still in the mood.
TimMaybe.
DanielMaybe I'll marry you. Get my number from somebody else.
SPEAKER_04I did tell them that. We're yeah, so we went on a blind date. Okay.
DanielYeah, I'll let you tell you, I told my version. It's your version. Do it.
SPEAKER_04You already told your version?
DanielWell, I'm sure I have a long time ago. I don't think so.
SPEAKER_04No, I went up, we were set up on a blind date. And Daniel is just fresh out of college, and like I had just broken up with this guy. Turns out he's gay. Like, he's finally come out, and it was like it wasn't gonna work out no matter what. No, but I was like, he was from California and he was a country musician and he was like very metrosexual. You remember that term back in the like uh 2000s?
DanielDudes that weren't gay, but he wasn't gay, but he and my all my girlfriends were. If a guy orders a diet rum and coat.
SPEAKER_04My girlfriend Val said, Erica. Diet, a Malibu and diet.
TimYeah. Malibu and diet.
SPEAKER_04Chances are, yeah, but I couldn't see through it. He was like this great Christian guy, and he is a great guy, but um just never had more than just friends' vibes, really. And so but I've got my yeah, I've got my heart like, you know, he's just from California and that's how they are. And I actually should I tell the story of doing it. I don't think whatever.
DanielNo, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We can tell that off often.
SPEAKER_05Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04Anyways, uh anyways, so then about a so I get set up on this blind date with Daniel. I'm not in like the best, you know, space. I because I'm thinking it's me. The insecurity of like maybe I'm not skinny enough, pretty enough, smart enough, whatever is in my head on this blind date because I'm just got my heart shattered by this guy. And so Daniel took it as like, I'm so I was bitchy, basically. Like, because I was very off-put, like I was just kind of closed. Closed off. I was closed off conscious. Yeah, yeah, I was self-conscious. I was closed off, I was self- self-conscious. You know, Daniel's so thin, and I saw him, and I'm like, I don't even think I could fit into this guy's jeans, you know? But that's not a criteria for it. It's not, no. But then about a year later, we were all up at a friend's lake house.
DanielOh, we we met again for that for an MM MMA. And I was kind of trying to be like, oh, hey, but he's my one of my good girlfriends was there, like that I went to high school with, Heather, who she's, you know, best friends with.
SPEAKER_04My soul sister. Oh.
DanielUh, you know, they actually they did hair together and then lived together for five years before before we even met. And then uh, but they were all like, you know, bouncing on the trampolines, like just only talking to each other and like doing that kind of thing. And I'm like, okay, well, whatever. I guess this this is this is not gonna work. Second time, I was like, well, give it a shit shot second time. Like, she doesn't want anything to do with it. I mean, whatever.
SPEAKER_04So I just kind of playing the line.
DanielI don't know, maybe I think I sat in the front and watched watched the MMA fight by myself. You sat in the back with Heather.
SPEAKER_04Well, he had his pit bull, Millie, there, and that was before I really knew how sweet the baby pit bulls are. And so I was like, this guy with a pit bull and whatever. So then we all met up at the lake house, and I was on the back deck, and he comes around the corner coming out of the water with a life jacket. He's like unzipping it, and he's like, Hey, sweetheart. Oh, and I was like, Hey. That's all you had to say, and everything changed.
DanielOr sweetie pie, or I think I said hey, sweetie pie.
SPEAKER_04Sweetie pie, I think it was, yeah. And then, yeah, that weekend was great. And then he on the last like Saturday, we're all packing up.
DanielHe's like, Yeah, so we're like, you know, we're flirting all Saturday, and then she's of course, you know, I wear hearing aids, so yeah, I'm trying to like drown him in the middle. So this is me in my 20s, you know. Of course, I want to be able to have a conversation with a girl and not being like, huh, what? What?
SPEAKER_04You know, it's floating in the water, drinking beer.
DanielYou know, yeah, I'm keeping my head dry and up, and then you know, of course, she's like the 13-year-old girl trying to dunk me every six seconds, and I'm like and he wouldn't let me do it. I'm like so she kept trying. I'm like, I got my aids. I don't even know if I told you.
SPEAKER_04I don't think you did.
DanielYeah, because I just didn't want to bring it up.
TimI was like, you know, you're like this, she's like, you're like, this girl's not gonna like me. She knows I have here and you never know. You never know.
SPEAKER_04So stupid, right? You never know.
DanielAnd then uh, yeah, and then then Sunday comes around, and then I'm like, all right, well, you know, you know, we we had kissed and we made out, and I was like, all right, I'm gonna get this girl's number, you know. And uh it was the next morning, and I was like, hey, uh, can I can I like can I get your number? And she looked at me and she goes, get it from Ben.
SPEAKER_04I was like, if this guy wants it, it's not gonna work. Because I was so done with dating and like the whole mind game thing. What do you mean get this? It's because Daniel's a nice guy, right? And like, but I'm dealing with the usual asshole jerks that are like not so.
DanielRegardless, I of course I got it from Ben and I and I, you know, text her and call her and it was a learning process.
TimBut from a guy's perspective, if a girl says to me, Well, get it from this other guy, and I'd be like, She hates me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04And I'm thinking, well, I'm gonna play, I'm gonna play this game, you know, that everybody seems to be playing because I'm like, you know, just trying to survive it. Dana called me. He got the number and he called me.
DanielYeah, so I've so I'm calling her and and like, you know, she does hair, so I don't realize, you know, I'm thinking, you know, I'm doing hair like 14 hours a day. Yeah, everybody gets off of work at five, like normal, like, you know, and then she's like not calling me back till like 8 30, 9 o'clock at night. I'm like, man, why aren't you like waiting four or five hours to call me back? And she's like, oh, I just got off work. And I remember being at like steeplechase with my buddies, like like waiting on her call, and like, you know, in summertime when it starts getting dark, you know it's late, you know, it's gonna be at least 7 38. And I'm like, man, maybe she does get off late. I don't know. And then of course we, you know, went on a couple days and then you figure out that whole hair, hair, uh, hair life. Timeline, yeah, life, yeah. And then she was grinding as as a young young lad. So she was putting a lot of time and effort.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, I was working, putting, you know, those people after work, I was doing their hair, yeah, weekends. Yeah, so and that was something when we were younger, when we had the kids, like he would stay home all Saturday with the kids while I worked. Yeah, I was by myself.
DanielYeah, but it was so good because he did it, and yeah, that's what like my boys are like, why do we ever go do nothing on Saturdays, like fishing and hunting? And this was I was at home with you because we were poor. Yeah, no understanding. We were we were a dual-income family. I wish I could have figured something out earlier to negate that.
TimI'm still trying to picture Daniel like coming up out of the water, taking his life jacket off.
DanielWe can reenact you got a pool out here, we can reenact afterwards. Did you have long hair at this point? I did not. It was very short, very high and tight, no beard. No beard, no wow, yeah. Right after college, so it's probably 125 pounds.
SPEAKER_04Daniel's It was the hey sweetie pie that got me.
TimThat's what the hay sweetie pie got. Yeah, yeah. Good call. Yeah, I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_04And how long have you guys been married now? It'll be 19 years in August, right?
Daniel18.
SPEAKER_0418, 18. No, it's 2026. And we got married in 08. Oh, so what is that?
DanielSo in 28 would be 20 years, so it'll be 18 years. Oh, 18 years.
TimWe always forget, we just go off of Hayden. Hayden's age, yeah. We're uh we're married like one year. Okay, yeah. Basically Max age.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, because you guys got pregnant like right after. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how we calculate.
DanielWhatever Max age is when when our anniversary comes up is our anniversary. Oh, okay. Because 16, he's 16, and he turns 17 right after that in November. So that makes sense.
SPEAKER_04No.
DanielHe turned 17 in November.
SPEAKER_04He's 09. Oh, yeah. So we were oh eight. Yeah, 09. Yeah, you're right. Daniel's right. Daniel. Just by a few months.
DanielI'm not saying exactly, but just if you just remember his age, when our anniversary comes up, that's the year. Or that's how many years we've been married. So next year it'll be 17.
SPEAKER_04Well, I always gauge it. Well, my mom passed away in 06.
unknownAll right.
DanielSo it's been 20.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
DanielSo we got married in 08.
SPEAKER_04We got married in 08. So maybe she she passed away in 07. I don't know. It's a blur. You try to block it out. I'm not good with dates. Like, I'm horrible at it. I'm really bad at it. I'm like, I don't even know what day it is today. Yeah.
TimIt's Sunday.
SPEAKER_04It's just Sunday. And I'm here with y'all. That's right. And that's great.
TimSunday fun day.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
TimYeah. We um we went to that show a couple years ago at uh the Turner Theater.
SPEAKER_04That was a lot of fun. The four of us were together. Yeah, yeah. That was fun. We should do that. Do you guys go often? Well, do you have tickets?
TimWe bought we bought season tickets for the for the listeners. We're talking about uh Studio 10, T-E-N-N, Studio 10.
SPEAKER_04Um they do a great job.
TimThey have great shows and all that kind of stuff. And we bought a um we bought season tickets for the past couple years.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
TimAnd so this year, they just they went on sale a few weeks ago, and like they're always hit or miss. Yeah, yeah. I feel like and I'm not a big play guy, but there's some that are pretty good. It's it's it's good enough to be like, hey, let's go out, you know, we got tickets to this. So it was worth buying it. So this year, you know, there are they, I guess they did the last one uh a couple weeks ago or last weekend, and I was like, you know what? I'm not buying these season tickets anymore. And then they like release the shows. Oh, yeah, and I'm just like, man, all these look good. I'm like, no, no, yeah. So I went on there, but they're like uh it was like $200 more for the season tickets than it was last year. So that was like the final like, no, we'll just buy a show, like yeah, if they're and there's not a bad seat in there, so yeah, that's right. It's all fine in there, but but it's fun to do those shows and just have, you know, we know that what is it? They really some quarterly or something.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah.
TimA new show and and go go out. We usually go eat and then go over there.
DanielI will tell you what, that place is it's MF chaos. Oh, the the factory, and it's only gonna get worse. I know with the uh whatever the hotel or something on the on the back side of that.
TimWell, we only go to the factory when we have those shows, and you can see every time we go, like months apart, it's like all the stuff that's been added to it and the more people that are in there.
DanielIt's unbelievable. Yes, it is. It really like I went there to I don't even think just drop Ruby off or pick something, or I don't even know, and like or we we went to dinner the other night. Remember that? Yeah, we went to dinner. You literally have to like stalk people coming out and like follow them to their spot.
SPEAKER_04Yes, I've done that a few times parking. One of my clients was trying to find parking, and I said, Listen, I just bought a washer from D.T. McCall's and a dishwasher. I'm gonna call them. You can park in their parking lot because she said she had been driving around for 30 minutes. Oh no. So I called DT McCall's and I said, This is very strange, but I just bought a washer and a dishwasher from y'all, and I have a client and she can't find parking. Can she park in y'all's, you know, parking lot? She goes, Oh yeah. What kind of drive car is she driving? She's driving a blue Porsche. Love.
TimAnd they let her do it.
SPEAKER_04And they let her do it. That's a smart idea on your part. I don't, I didn't, you know, she was like, I'm about to go home. I'm I'm done.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's so funny.
SPEAKER_04I'm done wash walk, you know, trying to.
TimThat's money for Eric or not being.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so I'm like, okay, I'll call D team of calls.
TimThey need a they need a garage or something.
SPEAKER_04They are building one behind Mo's.
TimOh, are they?
SPEAKER_04By the car carousel.
TimOkay, okay.
SPEAKER_04But they're gonna start, they're not gonna finish that and then start also building the hotel, from what I've been told.
TimWhere's the hotel at gonna be?
SPEAKER_04So it's gonna be back behind, you know, where Gulf Pride used to be?
TimYes.
SPEAKER_04No, no golf pride.
TimGulf Pride.
DanielGolf.
SPEAKER_04Gulf Pride. Gulf.
DanielGolf or Gulf? Gulf. Gulf. Gulf of America.
SPEAKER_04Gulf of America Pride.
DanielGulf of America.
SPEAKER_04It was like that shack lean to or back by that freestanding building.
SPEAKER_03The back side.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, where the farmers market used to be.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So you know where that big shed is?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04That's gonna be the carport.
SPEAKER_05Well, you'll pull in there.
DanielPull in there. And then it'll be back on that where all the parking is now towards back towards the where the farmer's market used to be, yeah. And all that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Wow. That's what I've been told. I don't think I haven't seen any real blueprint prints. Willie? I don't know.
TimI don't think awful park in there.
SPEAKER_04It's bad. And everybody talks about it.
TimAnd it's traffic-wise, too. It's not it's not the best.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
TimI mean, they need to build maybe use Harlan's Dale farms over there for parking.
SPEAKER_04Or run a shovel. In the summertime, yeah, do like Liberty Elementary and run a shovel.
DanielOr have better or have better, you know, trolley system. I mean, I know they have a trolley system in in Franklin, but granted, does well that that's the other thing too. We live in a really rich county, right? Are these people really gonna take a trolley?
TimNo, probably not.
SPEAKER_04Not if it's not convenient.
TimNo, it's crazy how how much that place has come online. And it and it is interesting and fun and it looks cool in there, but just like with everything, I like I don't go anywhere because I just don't like crowds, people, yeah.
DanielThat big it's intimidating. I met my dad there one time and it was really hard to park. I mean, it wasn't as bad as it used to be, but like, yeah, social anxiety, just getting in the parking lot, like uh dad, are you sure you want to you want you want to do this? You maybe we can go somewhere else. He's like, Oh, it's not that bad once you get in here. It's it's not yeah, it's just really the parking lot. But once you get in there, it just seems really overwhelming when you're like getting ready to walk in there.
TimYeah, a lot, a lot of people go in and out of that place. Like crazy, a lot of new restaurants in there.
SPEAKER_04I think they're doing line dancing on Wednesdays or bingo or something.
SPEAKER_03Another date and I let's go, baby.
DanielMy buddy Reed had a concert there, kind of like what you know. Hell, even uh Mike and Kate school had a a production there. Oh, yeah. Remember they had their they had a play there. Yeah. So it I mean, there's a lot of the idea behind it is fast. It's it's great. But yeah, of course, in order to do that, you have to be a multimillionaire and and have money to make more money. Well, that's the thing that I think sucks too, half the time, is that You gotta have money to make money.
SPEAKER_03Well, that's why we did the vending machines. Yeah. Low. Low. And we build low on ramp. That's smart.
SPEAKER_04And I think that's how most of these guys do. I know. I'm not saying it's not. Shark Tank, you know, you hear their stories. Yeah.
TimOh, I came in with the Google AI glasses and MetaTech stole those from me. Yeah, I know. Everybody's stealing your ideas all the time.
SPEAKER_04You gotta get them out there.
TimYeah.
DanielBut maybe we need to now that Chat GPT is available, maybe I should start putting my ideas through that. Or is that a bad thing? No, that's it.
SPEAKER_04You gotta do the clothes though. You can't have the open AI, right? That's when they can take it.
SPEAKER_03You don't want other people to come across your ideas. Yeah.
TimIf you have an account, then you you don't have to worry about it.
DanielI thought about this the other day, and not that I need one now, but like I was thinking like for all the kids who are graduating college or whatever, if they need like a resume built, they could just put all their stuff in a chat GPT and say, build me a resume.
TimI mean, we did I literally did that yesterday with an agreement for a vending machine location for for someone to sign. I was like, here, I need this, and it like it was perfect.
DanielYeah, that's the other thing too I was thinking of is like you know, if AI like kicks some some things out or or takes over some people's jobs, it opens up doors for other people. Yes, I I agree I agree that. But I mean and there's gotta be a human com human component to it, but like yeah, you could pop in a real estate, like there is no reason any of us should be using a realtor anymore.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I agree with that. We ever we just did this um remote. To buy and sell a property is to buy our own property again. We paid over fifty thousand dollars just in closing costs, fees and closing costs, fees and closing costs, and it's like we were the buyers and the sellers in this. This is ours. Why are there fifty thousand dollars in fees? Yeah, it's insane.
DanielIt's a rip off to get their piece.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I just feel like I we we just got our asses handed to us.
DanielI mean, in all honesty, you know, we we when the house that we moved in. Eric Erica found it on you know, Bicell Trade or Facebook or whatever. So we bought it from the owner, you know, without a realtor. And it saved us so much money that we were able to put money into savings and which we still have and and and use as kind of like a cushion, like a like a three or four, five, six months, you know, how they always say, you know, save six months worth of your salary for a you know rainy day fund. And and like if we if we did use a realtor, I I feel like we would I would feel more with my back against the wall than having that you know that cushion.
SPEAKER_04They have their plays, they do know markets and they can like I here's the deal.
DanielI think I think you'd if we were moving from one city to the next, you're living in the middle, then that's when you that's but if you're living if you know your own area and where you want to be, and like and you're not worried about schools or this, that, and the other, or you if you do have kids and you know what's where to go and where not to go, or what you think's a good school system, I I just think that that's completely to your advantage.
SPEAKER_03But also, like with our situation, there wasn't a realtor. Yeah, yeah, and we still had over fifty thousand dollars in peace. That's crazy.
TimThat is crazy.
SPEAKER_03It was just like a refinance. But that's the thing. That's it.
TimEverybody's gotta get their piece. Everybody's like, but they're ripping us off. I know, I know.
SPEAKER_03It's all a scam, just like insurance, just like all these other things.
Daniel100%.
SPEAKER_03Don't get me started.
DanielEspecially insurance. Don't get me started.
TimDon't get started. Seriously, it all it all sucks, but unfortunately, we're you have to do it. You have to do all of the things. The necessary evil. Yeah, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_04That's what they make you believe. I don't know. Daniel's cousin, he's like uh Daniel's cousin's husband. He like finds grants and private investors, and there's no reason to take out loans. People want to do your lending, like you be your lender.
TimLike it's very it's yeah, but it's watched.
SPEAKER_04But he talks so fast and he's so smart. I'm like, can you just can you write that down? Don't go.
TimIt's like what we were talking about in the beginning is that like if you put in that kind of work to do that stuff, but most of us are just like, oh, we didn't go to a realtor and we needed to do the big cut teachers, somebody who knows what they're doing.
SPEAKER_04Right.
DanielLike, and I think too, is that he does so well because I think on paper he wants to look like he's not doing well. So any any sort of capital he makes, he's putting it back. Like he said, they just bought like four fairly new like Toyotas, whether it's uh it was a Tacoma, a 4Runner, a Camry, and then something else, and he's doing that like he's just renting them out. Yeah. Like something weird. But you know, you but you I mean he didn't come out and flat out and say this, but you know, because he sold they sold off a bunch of their properties because they had like over 200 or over 150 or something like that. So he's probably has all this revenue that he's gained, but he's gotta put that somewhere so he doesn't pay taxes on it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
DanielSo he's buying, you know, assets or for a business, but yet he's not having to pay, you know, capital gains or whatever that whole and that's what's so I think fascinating is like you know, it's like the company that owns our company, it's like you know, how they're how companies go out and buy other companies is probably because you know they just sold the company and they like have all this money and then they don't want to pay taxes on it. So let's we're let's just take this revenue and buy something else and make a little bit more money, and then like, you know, it's just it's just it's fascinating to me how that you know all works out. It's like going in the grocery store and you know, all the products are owned by what four or five parent companies. Yeah. Oh yeah.
TimThat makes you feel like it's you got a thousand of options, but truly it's you don't have options. Yeah, yeah. It's uh everything that you everything that you buy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But unless you're like have a farm in your backyard. Yeah, and we'll we've considered cows.
TimWell, I mean know who they are, but we don't personally know them. Well, she's got tomatoes.
SPEAKER_03I I have successfully you're gonna make salsa well for the first time ever, this is the first time ever in my life I've been able to. Oh yeah. It's the first plant I've ever had that's actually like grown. Okay. It's not producing yet, but there's two flowers on it, so it's getting there. But like I planted like all these peppers, onions, tomatoes, wildflowers, everything. I mean, dozens and dozens and dozens of plants that I was trying to baby. I was trying to do a good thing.
SPEAKER_04And yeah, somebody's gotta like set it and forget it.
SPEAKER_03But out of like these 60 plants that I've planted, I had one that has survived. Oh wow. Yes, and that's my tomatoes. Okay. It's on the deck right now.
TimWe'll show it to you.
SPEAKER_03So we're probably a ways away from being self-sustainable because I can't keep anything alive.
TimWe'll at least have tomatoes for tomatoes.
SPEAKER_04Hey, that's something there. That is true. We've learned something. I don't know. I don't know if it's hard. Farming's hard. What do they call dirt? Your what did Dustin call it?
DanielBlack gold? I don't know.
SPEAKER_04He he would call it basically like your lotto and the or your blackjack and the dirt or something. Like you planted what you love using that little button.
SPEAKER_03I keep trying to get him to to like, I keep talking talking to him about getting us like some chickens or something. And then, like, I think two a year or two ago, I had this idea of like, we don't use half of our yard on this side of the bridge. Oh, yeah. So I was like, we need to have like a trout farm. We'll have our own fresh fish. Oh, yeah. All this stuff, and then we'll have chickens on the other side and a garden on the other side.
TimI'm like, you can't you can't do that in like an acre lot. Probably not. Probably not.
SPEAKER_03I think if you try hard enough.
DanielOkay. Where there's a will, there's a way to get it.
SPEAKER_03There's a front yard too, right?
SPEAKER_01We just have like a moat around the house. I was gonna say that'd be hilarious.
SPEAKER_04You have your own little lazy river. Yeah! That would be sold. Okay, I'm sold. With the trout swimming underneath you.
SPEAKER_05Okay, I like her brain.
TimRetirement goals. I know.
DanielA moat? A lazy river moat. We have a moat with trout. A warm lazy river moat. Could you imagine that? I would. If I was a billionaire, I think I'd build build a lazy river. Oh Friday.
SPEAKER_04I love a lazy river. I do too. What is he?
TimHe's a labberdoodle.
SPEAKER_03Labberdoodle?
TimWhat do you do in front? He's little though.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they come in different sizes. We got a smaller size.
TimThey come in different sizes. They come in different sizes. He's medium.
SPEAKER_04You know, actually like labs are big dogs, and so are doodle or poodle.
TimYou know, that one that hangs out at the office is pretty much the same. That's a large version. That's what Frank would look like if he was you know, that dog Allison brings in. Yep. But all right, guys. Well.
SPEAKER_03Say what? Say what? Well, we need to have another date night soon with the fun.
TimWell, we can also have another coffee with the hoslesses. Hosless. Yes, right. Yeah. That would be fun. Really fun.
SPEAKER_03Talk more about your transition to kids getting more out of the house. Yes. I was nervous, but this was fun.
TimAll right. I'll see you guys, Daniel. I'll see you on the two side dads with the two three. Absolutely looking forward to it.